On spring 2011, my wife and myself invited Dave Thornton to start a fresh and positive new life by coming to our property, located south of Quebec City. At that time, he was talking about killing himself and nobody from his family seemed to care.
We met him on the Internet many years ago when he was fighting Ponzi schemes. I created a Foundation for him since he was completely unorganized. I also created source codes from scratch for his new Web Site called cbnow.org or crimebustersnow.org . I have done that for free in order to help him. We also helped him on the Board of his Foundation until we resigned from it after having received death threats from a scammer.
At the end of June 2011, Thornton finally decided to move to Quebec and I arranged a trip to Toronto, with my son, 2 of my friends and my 2 cars so we could move him out from the small dirty room where he was living in a basement, in Oakville, near Toronto. There was garbage on his bed and all around. It was horrible ! So... we bought plastic bags and cardboard boxes at Home Depot and packed all of his stuff in the 2 cars.
Thornton finally arrived to our property on July 1st, with one of his friends and his remaining stuff.
Just before he arrived, we just bought another property, on June 21st, which we are slowly converting to an Artists Center, called the WebMusic-MusiqueWeb International Center, since we love to work with independent artists.
We moved there at the end of July 2011 and rented a room to Thornton, with shared spaces, at our other property. Thornton could come to the new one when he wanted to, if there was availability.
Thornton started to repair different things on his own. We didn't know at all he could do repairs before he moved with us.
He started buying and buying and buying tools and materials and initiating numerous unfinished jobs and charged my credit card up to around $18 000 until I put a stop on it.
He was mad after me since he could no more have a free lunch.
On November 1st 2011, he moved all of his tools to our other property, at night, without warning, without our consent and knowledge, since he suddenly was afraid to be caught by the Police, because I had guns at my property and it was a breach to his bail conditions.
We had no basement or proper spaces for his tools at our other property. He moved the tools under the car port and inside the living and dining rooms. We were not very happy about the situation. He stayed all of the winter and spring there without us seeing him.
During the time he was living at our new property, some of our belongings started missing, including keys, so we were happy that he moved to the other one.
One day that we were visiting him, we saw that he changed the locks of the bedrooms doors he had not rented at all and refused us to access them, which is pretty unusual for a normal person having nothing to hide.
When he was staying at our new property, he was asking my wife to drive him to the city to buy groceries and tools. She waited hours and hours after him and he started pointing his fingers to her face and shouting after her at 9 occasions, without my knowledge.
At the end of May 2012, my wife was on the verge of a nervous breakdown and I brought her with me for 4 days on the Maine coast to know what was going wrong. She started crying and I finally learned what Thornton was doing in my back, trying to split our couple.
I said to him that it was not the kind of life we were interested in and, if we was not changing his behaviour fast, he would have to find another place to stay.
My sister was needing a place to stay so I decided to rent her our other property and moved Thornton back to our new property with all of his tools, at our own expenses, at the end of October 2012.
Thornton had accumulated tons of garbages under the car port, for months, and the Municipality contacted us about the situation and warned us that the house and the car port should not be used as a warehouse, which we solved when Thornton came back here.
My wife also said to me that she thought Thornton was recording her, in the car, and us, at home, but we could not catch him and prove it.
We agreed together that she would make believe to play his play, which she did for months.
Since he had no car, Thornton asked me to pay his rent through the PayPal system. He has done that for months without any apparent problems.
On February 1st 2013, since Thornton had now an operational car, I asked him to pay us in cash instead. He seemed worried and tried to postpone the moment he would go to his bank. He asked me to prepare a 1-year lease agreement for our other property. We were negotiating about that on February 5-6. I prepared the agreement, according to his choices and signed it. He asked me to wait until the next day to sign it.
The next day, he sat in front of me and said that he would not sign the lease agreement at all. He accused me to have used his credit card without his consent and that he called PayPal and that PayPal could freeze our account if he were calling them back.
I was astonished and could not believe it ! I have been to my computer and checked our account. It had been temporary frozen by PayPal on February 4th, meaning that Thornton was not fair at all when he was making believe to negotiate in good faith with us about renting our other property.
I was really mad and I left Thornton know clearly my point of view and asked him to find another place to stay for March 1st.
I have been to bed at 10 pm and the phone started ringing at 1 o'clock in the morning, 6 times in a row. It was Thornton, panicking and asking me not to contact his probation officer in Toronto since it would cost him thousands of dollars and, maybe jail. He asked me how much it would cost him to stop me from calling his probation officer. I said to him that we just wanted to contact PayPal and say to them it was a misunderstanding and everything was OK. I also wanted him to pay his rent for February, nothing else.
I said to him that I was coming downstairs just to discover that he was no more at the house. He was in a Tim Horton's not very far from Quebec City. He said that he would call me back at noon. He called me back around noon and said that he was continuing his claims with PayPal and will never pay his rent for February, and that, if I was not not happy, just to sue him.
I contacted PayPal about the 2 months Thornton complained about at first and they shared our point of view. For the 3d month, October 2012, the matter is still under review.
In conclusion, or Thornton is a well-oiled crook or he is a very sick sour man. I'm not a doctor but I would say that he his a schizophrenic, paranoid, delusional man. We don't know for sure yet.
What we know is that we caught him for sure when he gave my wife, just after finishing packing up and loading his truck, on Saturday February 23, a CD with 9 unauthorized recordings of her and him, thinking he would succeed in breaking up our marriage, which he completely failed to, since I was aware of his old tricks and behaviours since the end of May 2012. We now have the proofs that we were looking for, for months...
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On spring 2011, my wife and myself invited Dave Thornton to start a fresh and positive new life by coming to our property, located south of Quebec City. At that time, he was talking about killing himself and nobody from his family seemed to care.
We met him on the Internet many years ago when he was fighting Ponzi schemes. I created a Foundation for him since he was completely unorganized. I also created source codes from scratch for his new Web Site called cbnow.org or crimebustersnow.org . I have done that for free in order to help him. We also helped him on the Board of his Foundation until we resigned from it after having received death threats from a scammer.
At the end of June 2011, Thornton finally decided to move to Quebec and I arranged a trip to Toronto, with my son, 2 of my friends and my 2 cars so we could move him out from the small dirty room where he was living in a basement, in Oakville, near Toronto. There was garbage on his bed and all around. It was horrible ! So... we bought plastic bags and cardboard boxes at Home Depot and packed all of his stuff in the 2 cars.
Thornton finally arrived to our property on July 1st, with one of his friends and his remaining stuff.
Just before he arrived, we just bought another property, on June 21st, which we are slowly converting to an Artists Center, called the WebMusic-MusiqueWeb International Center, since we love to work with independent artists.
We moved there at the end of July 2011 and rented a room to Thornton, with shared spaces, at our other property. Thornton could come to the new one when he wanted to, if there was availability.
Thornton started to repair different things on his own. We didn't know at all he could do repairs before he moved with us.
He started buying and buying and buying tools and materials and initiating numerous unfinished jobs and charged my credit card up to around $18 000 until I put a stop on it.
He was mad after me since he could no more have a free lunch.
On November 1st 2011, he moved all of his tools to our other property, at night, without warning, without our consent and knowledge, since he suddenly was afraid to be caught by the Police, because I had guns at my property and it was a breach to his bail conditions.
We had no basement or proper spaces for his tools at our other property. He moved the tools under the car port and inside the living and dining rooms. We were not very happy about the situation. He stayed all of the winter and spring there without us seeing him.
During the time he was living at our new property, some of our belongings started missing, including keys, so we were happy that he moved to the other one.
One day that we were visiting him, we saw that he changed the locks of the bedrooms doors he had not rented at all and refused us to access them, which is pretty unusual for a normal person having nothing to hide.
When he was staying at our new property, he was asking my wife to drive him to the city to buy groceries and tools. She waited hours and hours after him and he started pointing his fingers to her face and shouting after her at 9 occasions, without my knowledge.
At the end of May 2012, my wife was on the verge of a nervous breakdown and I brought her with me for 4 days on the Maine coast to know what was going wrong. She started crying and I finally learned what Thornton was doing in my back, trying to split our couple.
I said to him that it was not the kind of life we were interested in and, if we was not changing his behaviour fast, he would have to find another place to stay.
My sister was needing a place to stay so I decided to rent her our other property and moved Thornton back to our new property with all of his tools, at our own expenses, at the end of October 2012.
Thornton had accumulated tons of garbages under the car port, for months, and the Municipality contacted us about the situation and warned us that the house and the car port should not be used as a warehouse, which we solved when Thornton came back here.
My wife also said to me that she thought Thornton was recording her, in the car, and us, at home, but we could not catch him and prove it.
We agreed together that she would make believe to play his play, which she did for months.
Since he had no car, Thornton asked me to pay his rent through the PayPal system. He has done that for months without any apparent problems.
On February 1st 2013, since Thornton had now an operational car, I asked him to pay us in cash instead. He seemed worried and tried to postpone the moment he would go to his bank. He asked me to prepare a 1-year lease agreement for our other property. We were negotiating about that on February 5-6. I prepared the agreement, according to his choices and signed it. He asked me to wait until the next day to sign it.
The next day, he sat in front of me and said that he would not sign the lease agreement at all. He accused me to have used his credit card without his consent and that he called PayPal and that PayPal could freeze our account if he were calling them back.
I was astonished and could not believe it ! I have been to my computer and checked our account. It had been temporary frozen by PayPal on February 4th, meaning that Thornton was not fair at all when he was making believe to negotiate in good faith with us about renting our other property.
I was really mad and I left Thornton know clearly my point of view and asked him to find another place to stay for March 1st.
I have been to bed at 10 pm and the phone started ringing at 1 o'clock in the morning, 6 times in a row. It was Thornton, panicking and asking me not to contact his probation officer in Toronto since it would cost him thousands of dollars and, maybe jail. He asked me how much it would cost him to stop me from calling his probation officer. I said to him that we just wanted to contact PayPal and say to them it was a misunderstanding and everything was OK. I also wanted him to pay his rent for February, nothing else.
I said to him that I was coming downstairs just to discover that he was no more at the house. He was in a Tim Horton's not very far from Quebec City. He said that he would call me back at noon. He called me back around noon and said that he was continuing his claims with PayPal and will never pay his rent for February, and that, if I was not not happy, just to sue him.
I contacted PayPal about the 2 months Thornton complained about at first and they shared our point of view. For the 3d month, October 2012, the matter is still under review.
In conclusion, or Thornton is a well-oiled crook or he is a very sick sour man. I'm not a doctor but I would say that he his a schizophrenic, paranoid, delusional man. We don't know for sure yet.
What we know is that we caught him for sure when he gave my wife, just after finishing packing up and loading his truck, on Saturday February 23, a CD with 9 unauthorized recordings of her and him, thinking he would succeed in breaking up our marriage, which he completely failed to, since I was aware of his old tricks and behaviours since the end of May 2012. We now have the proofs that we were looking for, for months...