Generations of Virtue


Country United States
State Australia
City Monument
Address PO Box 1353
Phone 719-661-9216
Website www.generationsofvirtue.org/

Generations of Virtue Reviews

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  • Oct 14, 2014

Back in 1980 is when I first had my experience with Bishop Whitlock and Mary Whitlock with Trinity Ins...which is now called Generations of Virtue. I was very young and a single mom and had a very young daughter. She will be telling her story soon! I was looking for some place to belong and get spiritual help. When I first met this group I noticed that the women wore a blue dress, white shirt, white pants and a lighter blue skirt, which Mary first wore and the women were to follow, so that they would be covering up their lust. The men wore regular clothes. This did seem odd but because I wanted to belong somewhere i followed along. I thought I was getting involved with people who would pray for me and help me grow spiritually. Little did I realize at my age and vulnerability of my situation, that I just started following a full on cult.

My story is long and very detailed. I was in this cult for 15 years. The story that i will be sharing with you, might bring tears to your eyes and I will be tearing up pretty much of the time. I have been free of them for the last 20 years Praise the Lord. God was very faithful to pull me out and heal me of the nightmare I lived and many are still living to this day, but don't know how to leave or get free.

When I heard that Mary Whitlock had teamed up with some new people (Kay and Julie) and gave the building to them for a dollar, after Bishop Whitlock died, I couldn't believe that all the people that sacrificed and labored for the property in Conesus would just be completely left out. Especially one family in particular had lend $100,00.00 so that we could own the Mission. They were told that they would get their money back and trusted the Whitlocks to make good on their agreement. Mary never even called them. For a fact they were given this information just recently and said that they had no idea that the building was given to someone else. Mary took a vote and gave Kay and Julie the building.

I will give some detail on what I experienced: We were taken into what they called a prayer closet. Most of the time it was all women standing in a circle around you. Mary and the leadership would tell you what they saw that god was telling them about you. It was never good!!!! You were told to give it up or something would happen to you. So you would labor and labor over it and cry and beat yourself up over it until they said, OK, you gave it up or you didn't give it up and it would start all over again, the crying and travailing. This could go on for hours and hours. During these type of prayer sessions I was beaten so down inside that I didn't even think God loved me or heard me. This is skimming the surface of all the times I was on the chair in front of these women getting exposed of all my sin, that they saw in me. It was extremely abusive and manipulative. They kept us in this state so that they could control us.

Another thing I will share this time around is they at some point after my daughter was about 9 or 10, separated us from our children and sent them to Chickasha Oklahoma to one of our churches there. The kids were told when they arrived that they didn't know when they would be sent back to their parents. My daughter told me that they all cried. They told us parents that it was a school. And in part it was, but it was to separate us from our children and they began teaching them what they wanted them to know. We at that point were pretty much brain washed and would drink the cool-aid. It was really hard being away from my daughter, but at that point I had been beaten down enough that I didn't know how to leave or oppose them. None of us would think of it.

One of the times after about 6 years, Bishop Whitlock had me in a chair in front of the whole church. He said that he saw in the spirit that my mom and dad were not good for me. So he had me repeat after him, "that I would never ever contact them again". So I tried to repeat after him. I tried and tried and couldn't say it exactly like him. He then got very angry with me and said I was rebellious. Finally, I got it right and I was sent back to the congregation. This was humiliating and very sad for me. I already hardly ever saw my family, because I knew it would get me in trouble.

We were also taught that we were in other lives. So on top of getting in trouble with what they saw in this life, you then were getting dwelt with what they saw you do in your other lives. One experience that really stayed with me, that I remembered was when they were praying for a member named Ellen. She had come into our church and had lots of money. One time when Ellen was on the prayer chair, Mary told Ellen that she saw in the spirit that Ellen owed Mary money from another life. We noticed that Ellen began to personally give Mary money after that. I saw and experienced the whole thing and knew Ellen pretty well. Ellen really cared what Mary thought of her and wanted to please Mary.

These are just a few experiences that I had. There are 15 years of what I call spiritual abuse. I am not a writer, but I will try and put my words down the best I can. These things that happened are only the tip of the iceberg. The people who are choosing to follow this group are deceived or afraid or want to feel like they belong to something. They are caught up in a cult. I will write some more tomorrow.

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  • Oct 13, 2014

I was a founding member of a Christian ministry decades before it became what it is today, which is Generations of Virtue operated by Kay and Julie Hiramine. Mary DeWeese and I both joined this deliverance ministry in 1970. In 1973 Mary joined with Bishop Whitlock, the founder, as his wife. Subsequently Mary was divorced from her husband and left her 4 sons in the care of others.

As we all sought purity Mary, as co-pastor, returned to one theme again and again: we women were inadequate mothers. Every mother who attended our meetings for very long found herself criticized for being controlling, wanting her children's "worship," and being a hindrance to God having free rein in the lives of their children. This message was given to every woman, across the board, until Kay and Julie arrived. By this time Bishop Whitlock had passed away and Mary was the sole authority in our organization.

In Julie, Mary found a "kindred spirit." Julie was the "ideal wife and mother." Thus began our prayer group's subjugation to Kay and Julie's every ambition, which eventually became Generations of Virtue. The idea of Generations of Virtue: promoting purity in body, mind and spirit and helping parents guide their children through the turbulent teen years is a worthy goal--one we and many participating parents applauded. However, the outward display of promoting family unity did not match the inward workings of the Hiramine household.

I was there when first one teenage girl, then another, and another and another were conscripted to "help" in the ministry. These girls worked like slaves, without pay, just room and board. They ran the Hiramine household including childcare, cleaning, cooking and homeschooling and violin lessons so Kay and Julie were free of responsibility to work their businesses.

Work for the girls was never-ending. If they complained, they were on the prayer chair being reprimanded, told they needed to "die to self" and appreciate the "high calling" God had accorded them in being trained by Kay and Julie to be faithful servants of God.

Eventually each recruit into Generations of Virtue is moved further and further away from his/her nuclear family. He or she is made to believe his or her parents are controlling, even abusive (even though there is no evidence to support those accusations.) The recruits are led to believe the only way they can fully and freely dedicate their lives to God's service is to sever all contact with their "rebellious and unregenerate" parents, even though these said parents are mature Christians who have sought God diligently for years to walk in justice, purity and holiness.

In order to make the severance complete, these teens are told lies about their parents. Lies, supposedly revealed supernaturally, usually to Mary Whitlock. Lies such as, "Your parents are sending out negative powers to oppose our ministry," and "You were sexually abused as a child before you can remember."

Other Christians in ministry have questioned Kay regarding his remarkable and unique entourage. Kay intimates that all his apprentices come from abusive home situations, that he and Julie have "saved" them, magnanimously opening their home to these poor afflicted souls who have no where else to go. All lies!

These young people have loving, Christian families who daily mourn the loss of their children and have spent time, money and prayer to get them back. I pray for God's justice and truth to prevail in this situation and for complete restoration of these families who have been torn apart by Generations of Virtue, Kay and Julie Hiramine and Mary Whitlock.

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  • Oct 30, 2014

Generations of Virtue Scam Cult Danger Heartbroken Father

My wife and I joined Christ’s Church of the Restitution/Trinity Institute around 1983. We had been a part of a small prayer group that had a fair number of young people that were all dedicated to seeking to know the Lord intimately. That being said, there were some things that got way off course in that group. When the leader of the group died of cancer, some of us joined the Whitlock organizations as they also billed themselves as seeking God with all their hearts.

What should have been a red flag to us was the secrecy involved with how the Whitlock marriage/union came about and some hints of other errors. Little did we know that it would take nearly 35 years for this information to fully come to the surface. There were a few hints along the way that we could hardly believe but as pieces of the puzzle came together, the picture became unmistakable. Most of these pieces came together in the last couple years.

From what we have learned, Whitlock believed, at least for awhile, that as a prophet of God, he could deliver women from lust by having sex with them. It was to this “prophet” that a woman named Mary from the Midwest would leave her husband and 4 children to “marry” and help spread his message. Mary described their “joining” as just “soo God”. To her credit, Mary helped put an end to his “ministry” to the women but she then began emotionally abusing these same women in prayer sessions. She would have called it tough love or giving them hard truth.

Women became so traumatized by these sessions they became nearly non-functional in their homes. Women who had miscarriages were accused of killing their babies even though they were advised not to seek medical help. Many were told they were trying to destroy the ministry. The girls were treated much the same way. Most of these girls ended up leaving the ministry but some of the older women stayed on and were browbeaten by Mary for the rest of their lives. Many of the girls still live with the emotional scars from this time.

Things were somewhat different for the men. Though they were not put through as many prayer sessions with Mary, they were expected to work to support both their families and all the ministry facilities around the country. With the constant shuffling around the country, it was hard for most families to really get established financially. I would say that many in the fellowship lived in poverty. In retrospect, the Whitlocks seemed to smell money. If they sensed somebody had a little extra, they were after it. People were giving as much as they could and then the schools were started and even more was expected to be given.

We did not actually live at any of the ministry facilities until years later when the Whitlocks ministry was dissolved and the assets rolled into Vision For the Nations Fellowship. However, we attended meetings in New York City, Oklahoma, California and Upstate NY where we eventually moved. We were also on regular phone conferences for years. We gave the Whitlocks the benefit of the doubt that they were “hearing from God”, although we never knew what was really going on behind the scenes. They were old enough to be many in the groups parents and so people trusted that what they said was honest.

Some of the things they said were so “out there” it was hard to prove either right or wrong so we would continue. Somehow, my wife and I managed to stay in the Whitlock’s good graces most of the time but as with everyone, we always walked on egg shells. We always had questions about the severity of some the prayer sessions but again couldn’t really prove the accusations false. When it finally became my wife’s turn and then mine to be turned on and be accused of these same type of things and others that we knew factually weren’t right, we faced the sorry fact that this is what had been going on for years and we had been a part of it.

Bishop Whitlock started making claims that he was “lust free” and that people in the fellowship were free from sickness. He then came down with cancer and ended up passing away. During the time of his illness, Mary believed her assignment with Bishop was complete and left him to the care of others while she traveled the country looking for a new ministry mission. She settled on Kay and Julie Hiramine.

With this new transition, very few people from the old group were invited to go on with the new program. I believe the chords were quietly cut. Christ’s Church of the Restitution was dissolved and all the assets were rolled into the Hiramine’s church, Vision For the Nations Fellowship. Mary involved herself in the Hiramines lives almost immediately. For the next 18 or so years she would be an almost daily influence in their lives, mentoring them and their children in what she believed were God’s ways. For those of us from the old group, the commitment we had in the past for the Whitlocks was now required for Mary Whitlock and the Hiramines.

Kay invited us to move to the Mission in New York, based on Mary’s recommendation, to be caretakers at the Mission plus to be a prayer support for this new ministry. We agreed to this arrangement believing that God had an important plan for the ministry. Mary seemed to relax things for awhile but then clamped down hard again. First one girl and then another went to Colorado to help. Kay was initially very skeptical of these arrangements as he questioned whether they would have time to just be a family with all the outside help. But Mary was unrelenting in her mind control techniques and could get to Julie and always have the prayer group back her up. Kay just got out voted sometimes. It wasn’t long though before having all that help was just normal.

Mary’s work with the prayer group was almost always in crisis mode. People started being kicked out based on perceived spiritual problems usually involved with somehow trying to destroy the ministry. We were supposed to be praying for God’s work in the new ministry yet so much time was wasted on issues less than petty. One lady had recently come into the group and was in a very unstable emotional state as she was going thru a family break up. At some point she made a comment that she thought Julie should raise her own children. For this, Mary pretty much had her shunned and she left in shame.

During this time we made an offer for which we are troubled to this day. Mary thought the Hiramine’s needed more help. Our oldest daughter at home (age 15) had functioned well in a difficult time for our family when both her older sister and her mother were in serious cancer battles. She had 5 younger sisters at the time. Our oldest daughter ended up passing away from an aggressive brain tumor while my wife has been cancer free for many years now. We thought our 15 yr old could help the Hiramines too. She was reluctant at first but agreed to go.

She called us a couple of days later in tears. It would be the first of many such calls. She said that when she arrived it was fairly late and she was nervous about her flight, being away from home, etc. She said they gave her laundry to finish while they went to bed. We encouraged her to stick it out, confident that Mary would rectify anything that was out of order. One of the way things were rectified was to haul them before the prayer group and let them know how ungrateful they were for having such an opportunity. Sometimes Mary would encourage them to stick it out. We were very torn as to what to do because we thought this was where God wanted us. On one prayer meeting, our daughter gave a testimony that she finally realized why she was out there. She said that while the Hiramines had many material blessings, she had been blessed with a stable family and she could help with that part. Mary was thrilled that she “finally got it”.

Not long after this, my wife began to be suspected as a problem person. Then when our daughter would have a problem with her assignment it would be blamed on my wife’s negative spiritual influences. On one meeting our daughter said something like “ I think my Mom is making better decisions because I’m getting along with Julie better.” It is clear that their hearts were being quietly and systematically turned against us. The first time our daughter came home she hugged us in tears saying she never thought she would see us again. The seeds were already in her mind. When my wife was pregnant with our youngest daughter, our oldest daughter asked for a month off to help my wife. The request was granted. Our daughter was born with Down Syndrome.

Two more of our daughters moved out to help the Hiramines and their new ministry, Generations of Virtue. More wild charges would be leveled against my wife, our other daughters at home and me. We were forced out. It was a very difficult time to say the least. I might note here that during the last few months we were at the Mission and were called to be on the prayer chair almost daily, we verbally agreed with everything and anything Mary said we were doing wrong “in the spirit”. It’s very difficult to explain the state a person’s mind is in when under this constant pressure to repent of horrendously wicked sins that someone else is saying God is revealing to them. When we first left, we felt forsaken by God but then saw His hand rescue us time after time. As we have been reunited with those who have also left, the main attitude between us has been one of seeking forgiveness for not speaking/standing up for the truth.

People that left the group after we did told us that we are now being accused of abuse and that Kay and Julie have taken in our daughters due to the abusive home they were from. If this was true, it seems that our older daughters should have made some effort over the last 6 years to inquire on the welfare of their younger sisters, especially the youngest with Down Syndrome. This is not the way our daughters would have behaved years ago, but is the way Mary has influenced them. It is also ironic, considering GOV promotes themselves as a champion of all things family.

It has also been reported to us that an “adoption ceremony” was held for the purpose of adopting our three daughters into the Hiramine family. This is another example of the way Bishop Whitlock and Mary did things in the past to other families to completely separate children from their parents.

When one of our daughters was going to be married a couple years ago, we were not told. We were also told they considered inviting us but people also told us that Mary put out a memo to the prayer group to pray that the girls got the right message. They apparently got the “right message” as we were not contacted. A grandbaby has also been born, all without a word to any of the family; all have been cut off, including grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins.

There was no communication between us and our daughters for nearly 5 years. Mary always frowned on any communication with anyone who had left the ministry, as she claimed it would be an opening to the enemy to attack those in authority. We have sent birthday cards, etc., all without any response. Some correspondence has been sent to Julie and Kay from extended family inquiring about their position on the separation of their nieces, with the only response being a “to whom it may concern” typed letter signed by our daughters stating that the family of God is the most important family and to basically leave them alone to do God’s will.

When the Hiramines started getting a little flak about a year ago, the girls did make some effort to communicate. They attempted to connect with several of their sisters, talking to them as if they had always been there for them, which was more upsetting than not hearing from them at all. They also attempted to set up a phone conference with their grandparents and all of us, but because the grandparents were so upset about the initial conversation, we also declined to talk at that time. We did request that they put their thoughts in writing to us, but we received nothing. Things remain much the same at this writing.

Words cannot express the grief we all have felt due to being cut off from our three daughters. In all the years we knew Mary, not once did she ever bring up that we were guilty of any type of child neglect or abuse. To experience being demonized as parents in every way possible and having our children believe it and tell others, is truly painful. We would be willing to talk to anyone who would like to hear what we know has gone on behind the scenes of GOV. Our hope and prayer is that no other family will experience what ours has. We also deeply regret that an organization we helped promote has caused so much grief for such a long period of time.

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  • Nov 18, 2014

Generations of Virtue, Cult, Lies and Deception, Abusive Doctrine

ON THE OUTSIDE

When I first met Kay and Julie Hiramine, I was serving in a homeschool leadership capacity and Julie had started a new ministry called Generations of Virtue. Our organization invited their ministry to our conference, and they noticed my daughter’s talents with regard to technology and graphic design. That year circumstances put us on the same path three different times. Julie/GOV wanted my daughter to join their team as she had much to offer. I even stayed in their home and spoke to the other girls with GOV. What I found were capable, well-spoken, young, energetic, talented young ladies striving to please God and serve the ministry. Julie was open to answer questions and seemed very reassuring of the care she and her team would take of my daughter. While I was hesitant for my daughter to move away from home for three months, I felt it was like a short mission trip. She returned home in April 2009 after the trial period and worked at home for her dad that summer. She communicated with GOV during the summer and as soon as summer work was over, she was convinced God wanted her with GOV and GOV wanted her; she was 20.

From this point until now, my daughter has changed tremendously and our family has suffered great loss. She slowly cut off communication. There were times it was 14-15 months with absolutely nothing. If it wasn’t for Facebook, I might not have recognized her. There were family reunions, graduations, baptisms, Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthdays, etc. that my daughter was invited to and the response again and again was that she would pray about it and God told her not to come. This was a major red flag to our family. While we believe in praying to God and asking for his guidance, it has never been used to justify behavior or avoid family. The questions began to be asked: what is going on there? Is it just our daughter? Why the drastic change that is totally uncharacteristic of our daughter? Why is everyone else elevating Kay and Julie Hiramine as these amazing people who seek God and yet our daughter in their care has been lost? Wouldn’t someone serving in a ministry organization want to rush home and tell the family all about the amazing things they are doing? Wouldn’t ministry leaders want all those working for them to have biblical relationships with family and friends? Why the public appearance of maturity and the private isolation?

Upon contacting some of my daughter’s friends, I found that they had received the same treatment from her. Talking with extended family members, we found that they also had been cut off. We were concerned. It was also interesting that the conversations Julie was so eager to have before she had my daughter were now nonexistent. Our family was so concerned for our daughter we took the entire family up to Colorado Springs to visit with her. We were given similar responses as we had received since she was under Kay and Julie’s leadership. She would say, “when one of you calls, I look at my phone and God tells me not to answer it”. I asked her if she used that same procedure when Julie or Sara called. Her response was, “oh no, I always answer their calls”. We were shocked by her distorted view of God and family and her uncharacteristic behavior. She believed cutting family off was part of her way to show devotion to God. She stated at one point that if her younger sister was dying of cancer and only had a month to live, she would not come to see her before she died in order to show her devotion to God. This broke my heart as I know how much she loved her sister.

Prior to my daughter going to GOV, I heard Julie speak and listened to various recordings by her. It seemed to me like sound, practical, biblical principles. I even sat and asked her how she came up with her information and how on earth she finds time to raise five girls, homeschool, be a helpmate to Kay, write books, speak, etc. She told me four homeschooled young ladies help her. I envisioned some young ladies coming for several hours a week to assist in different tasks.

ON THE INSIDE

The truth I later learned about these young ladies that live with Kay and Julie is that if they are useful to Kay and Julie, they never return home. They have also cut off communication with their families. In the initial trial period there is special care taken to make them feel so needed and important. They impart to them that they are privileged and part of a ministry that is changing the world. They are privileged to travel with the Hiramines, go on vacations, stay in fancy hotels/resorts, and meet “important” people outside the the cult that the Hiramines know. These important people are used by the Hiramines to keep up a public image. After the initial trial period where all seems amazing, they begin the process of separating them from their family and friends. The Hiramines become their family and the only friends they have are ones used to help keep up the public image of the ministry. Kay lists the girls as his daughters and they list him as their father on Facebook. He went so far as to walk one of the girls down the isle and give her away at her wedding. Her loving father was not allowed to attend. A distance between her and her father was created by Mary, Kay and Julie by using false stories and accusations. Will my daughter be next? She is a very strong young lady, but their tactics are wicked and effective in breaking one down. One of their methods for controlling these girls is to work them tirelessly. They must be on call 24/7 or be punished and they only have a few hours on Sunday to do some of their own personal life chores. There isn’t time for friends or family.

Keep in mind when you see these beautiful young ladies who seem to be so well adjusted that when Julie allows someone to speak with anyone in the cult, they are all well versed in how to answer questions in a vague way that won’t reveal the inner circle cult and non-biblical doctrine and will continue to establish the public biblical view of the ministry. The fear of being called onto the prayer chair keeps most members extremely motivated to not allow any behavior or attitude to be detected by others. If one can find some reason to rat on another member it is often done in order to prevent you from being put on prayer. The group travel together so that control is maintained. No one is allowed to go to the store or out for coffee without approval from the leadership. If my daughter wanted to come home she would have to go on prayer in order for it to be cleared by the leadership.

What makes Generations of Virtue/Vision for the Nations/Kay and Julie Hiramine so deceiving is what the public doesn’t see. From the outside one sees a Christian worldview and Christian Orthodox doctrine; however, on the inside is twisted scriptures, abuse of women and children, bondage, human trafficking, child labor, harmful living conditions for some lower level workers, and mind control. Their doctrine includes the follow: travailing, REINCARNATION, prayer chair sessions, levels of heaven, long terms of isolation and confinement of young children, tail power, etc.

THE PRAYER CHAIR: After asking my daughter what happens on the prayer chair, this is what she said, “It’s not really anything special or crazy. If I’m not feeling well, I sit on the chair and people pray for me. I may go to my room after that and just spend some time with God reflecting.” This would be her appropriate response given to a person on the outer circle so as not to expose the inner circle. The reality is that prayer time is much more and is taught as a time to help members to be cleansed of their iniquity and cause them to be more like Christ. Sounds righteous and holy, but please read on. Prayer is a time for the inner circle to gather together for teaching/chastisement by Mary, Kay, or Julie. It is during this time that the scriptures are twisted and they expose the personal side of individuals. Techniques used are described as spiritual rape. Not all members are treated the same. There are a few members who are uplifted and exalted on prayer, there are some who seem to stay in the background and their sessions are with minimal correction, and then there are those who all techniques, guilt, shame, fear are release upon. Oftentimes the last group are tough and don’t seem to be eager to comply or the last group is seen somehow as a threat to Julie, Mary, or the second oldest daughter. The Prayer chair is an actual chair located in the center of the room. Members are required to have regular sessions on the prayer chair. One can either request to be on prayer or be put on prayer by Mary, Kay, or Julie due to your behavior or something someone might have seen in the spirit about you. There are intercessors in different parts of the country, and there is usually a phone on speaker so that all can hear and participate. Members may be required to be on prayer wherever they may be traveling in the world. This is done via phone. Mary starts the praying and it includes: praying, praying in tongues, wailing, screaming, and travailing. The length of time depends on the persons anger, resentment, and lust. There is a strong focus on sexual sin, particularly for the females. After the travailing you sit in the chair and are told what others saw or sensed about you in the spiritual realm. This is viewed as prophesy. All the visions and experiences people see about you are then submitted to Mary who in turn gives the revelation of what this means about you. Everything people hear or feel about you on prayer is taught be actually be going on. No matter how bazaar or inaccurate the visions and statements may be, the member is required to accept them as truth or further abuse will be implemented until one concedes and yields to the authority-Mary, Kay and Julie. The leadership teaches the prayer group is absolutely accurate and correct and so a member is pressured to agree and confess to whatever they say about you on prayer. In the past this has included: incest, desire for adultery, adultery, past life murder, sexual abuse, bestiality, passed life debt owed, attempted murder of someone miles away, etc. Prayer notes are the notes taken while one is on prayer to document what their iniquity consists of, the behavior and prophesies given. Many former members still have their prayer notes, but some have thrown them away or burned them in order to heal from years of abuse. In these notes one can see first hand how these techniques were executed. It is also helpful to understand how things were twisted by looking at The Whitlock Guide to Spiritual Terms. There are two more books, Laying the Ax to the Root and Transforming Prayer that were written by Mary Whitlock and used by Kay and Julie to bring them into ultimate authority over the individuals and use God’s word with a twist appealing to the girls desires to please God and serve Him. The primary message that Mary, Kay and Julie taught was that of iniquity. On a daily basis behavior is identified and one’s iniquity must be dealt with in the group. Their is a constant threat that one’s iniquity is trying to destroy one of the leaders or purposely making trouble for the leaders. One’s iniquity can do this even if you are on the other side of the world, because the spirit and frequencies of iniquity do not know time or space. Iniquity can manifest in something like sneezing, coughing, or flipping one’s hair. Even if you do nothing physically, the leaders may sense this about you in the spiritual realm and you will be dealt with and punished. Very young children are required to give up their iniquity and get on the prayer chair. According to Mary, Kay, and Julie, children are well aware of their iniquity and motives at a very young age.

REINCARNATION: This is part of prayer chair sessions. This concept enables the leadership to use interpretation/prophesy to their advantage and create whatever scenario is necessary to instill fear and control behavior. Mary prophesied and it was believed that in their former life the first-born Hiramine daughter had killed their second-born daughter. The second born daughter did not want to return to earth, but had to in order to avenge her death. Mary’s role throughout her life has been to protect the second born from her older sister. Her older sister was often told that she was trying to kill her younger sister. This declaration early in their life established a regular place of iniquity for the leadership/parents to abuse the oldest daughter. There are many of these types of reincarnation examples including: women being told they were a priestess of Molech and sacrificed children, a woman being told she killed babies in China in her former life, people being from the future here with us now, members were also told who they were in their former life which would explain their lustful, doomed to fail fate, etc. They teach that God is a loving Father who does not subject anyone to eternal damnation. As humans we live many lives, many times on earth, until perfection is reached and one can enter into the Kingdom of God. Each time you die, you go to another “classroom” or level of Heaven. You get sent back to Earth to learn more and become more like Jesus until you’ve reached perfection. This group, including the leaders Kay and Julie, believe that their particular group has been together for many life cycles. They also believe our spirits are far older than our physical bodies. They teach that just because the body (shell) is young, it doesn’t mean they are not full of iniquity. Mary believe you can talk directly to a person’s spirit regardless of their age. Including young children enables the leadership to get a jump on controlling them. Mary made sure that all people knew Kay and Julie were the prophets with a special message that no one else on earth has. It’s the duty of all those in the church to support, yield, serve, surrender all to, Kay and Julie so that they are free to give this message to the world.

TRAVAIL: This is a concept taught by Mary, Kay, and Julie and practiced by members. It means to break the power of iniquity. Travail consists of hitting a pillow, punching bag or trampoline with a baseball bat for a period of time. Travail may also include screaming, yelling, swearing, shaking, vomiting, kicking or convulsing. Travail is done in the prayer sessions and in private. Children and women have both been travailed upon. The purpose is to remove negative emotions inside of you so that you can think clearly and hear God’s voice. If leader’s are having a bad day it wouldn’t be unusual for members to gather together and travail on their behalf.

PARENTING: While they travel around the world teaching about parenting, Kay and Julie have not once mentioned their personal, inner cult, style of parenting. Shocking to me was to hear of their oldest daughter(at the time she was 11-12) being sent away from the family living in Colorado Springs to be confined in a room at the Mission in Conesus, NY for over three months. Have they mentioned this typed of discipline in their parental teaching or at any conference? This is a practice common to the Hiramines, but not one they would like known. Another person living at The Mission recalls that she would bring the Hiramine daughter her food and leave it at her door as she was not allowed to speak to her. From my experience listening to Julie speak, I haven’t heard her mention the nuts and bolts of how she gets it all done: cleaning, cooking, homeschooling, time with each child, shopping, time with Kay, writing books, and then traveling the world. The truth is found in those young ladies who live with her. I believe they are often listed as personal assistants on the website, but truth is they do the homeschooling, cooking, cleaning, shopping, violin lessons, karate lessons, etc. No wonder they have no time for friends or family.

After speaking with multiple former members dating back to the 1970s, my heart broke for my daughter who is deep in the mental bondage of these people. Their manipulation and control techniques turned my daughter away from our family and many daughters from many families. The lives that have been damaged are numerous, and the abuse is criminal. They have hurt my daughter and used Jesus Christ as a way to her heart. As her mother I will never stop loving my daughter and fighting for her. The damage done is far beyond my imagination, but my hope lies in the Lord to restore her mind and restore our family. - Cathey Las Cruces, NM

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  • Oct 22, 2014

In 1980 my Mom and I moved to ReddingCalifornia. I was 7 years old. We moved to join this supposedly wonderful Church named Trinity Institute or later changed to ChristChurch of the Restitution and some years after I left Generations of Virtue. The woman and all girls were made to wear a uniform that consisted of white pants, a white blouse, a light blue skirt and a blue tunic so that our lustful bodies were covered. Even the baby girls were made to wear this uniform.

When we first joined some of my first memories were when we would go to Lewiston for church and all of our mothers would be in a prayer closet getting screamed at by Mary Whitlock and other women in leadership. On many occasions over the years I remember Mary screaming at our moms telling them that if they didn’t make the right choice that they would die by midnight. I remember always being thankful that our moms must have made the right choice in the spirit because they would all still be alive in the morning. I remember all of us kids standing outside of the closed door looking down at our mothers shoes and hearing them being screamed at for hours and hours. We were hungry and when any of us kids knocked at the door to see when they would be done so we could eat. Mary or one of the other women would open the door and scream at us to go away.

This went on for years and years and is still happening.

In the mean time My Mother and I were moved around from State to State wherever we were told to live by Bishop and Mary Whitlock.

When I was 11 our mothers were told to take all of us kids that were of the age of 9 and older to ChickashaOklahoma and that we were going to be going to a school for a time where they were going to teach us about the Bible and how to cook and clean.

When our mothers left we were told that they didn’t know when we would see our families again and I remember all of us girls crying and being afraid.

This was only the beginning of True Hell on Earth for us.

I remember being in so called Bible class for hours and hours and one by one being called to sit in the prayer chair to have lustful and evil Demons cast out of our eyes which meant that whatever adult at the time that was leading the class or prayer would get up in our faces and grab our stomachs and scream in our faces to cast the Demons out. This scared me so bad and was so humiliating! We would also have to lie on prayer mats on our bellies and everyone that was in the class was made to lay hands all over our bodies and scream and pray for our lust to be cast out. The adults would join in as well whether it was Bishop, Mary or whoever they had put into place to lead the so called service or class.

As far as us girls knew it was just us that had lust and were bad. The boys seemed to be free from it. We were degraded in front of each other we were made to feel dirty and stupid. When one of us was being screamed at, no one would talk to us because then they would be in trouble as well. We were alone and scared and hurt. I don’t know how to get these emotions out that I and my friends felt. We didn’t have anyone to protect us. I want to say that I watched my friend Sarah be treated like this and so much more!!!! She was always being degraded and humiliated and called a w****. But so was I. you see Sarah and I developed physically sooner then some and I personally think that because Bishop Whitlock and some of the other men looked at us that Mary Whitlock made us a huge target. We were the dirty w*****. Sarah will be telling her story and every word is the truth.

I don’t remember ever personally being targeted about a specific past life but others were. I remember that Bishop and Mary said that he had a sister who had passed away and he claimed that she was nothing but a w****. They told my friend Sarah that she was his sister reincarnated. Bishop and Mary seemed to manipulate most of the church with this belief to profit them in whatever it was that they wanted at the time. When I was about 12 Bishop and Mary Whitlock told my mother that she would be getting married to almost a complete stranger the very next day. I pretty much freaked out. I was so scarred for her! It was horrible. She did this because she truly thought that this is what god told her to do through them.

After she married my mother and my stepfather were sent to New York City and I was sent to the Mission in Conesus New York to live on my own. One of the mothers that also lived there home schooled any of us children that were sent there to help out at the Mission without our parents. We shopped for out own food and cooked for ourselves.

One time when I was around 13 or 14 we were having a big retreat where a lot of the members came together at the Mission and at one of the services Bishop Whitlock asked me if I was ready to get married to a boy that was 17 or 18. I said no and was completely humiliated in front of the church members because I didn’t want to do Gods will. It was a short time after that that I was pulled out of bed at five in the morning and told to go to the prayer closet where I was met by Mary and at least 10 to 15 woman and she screamed at me saying that all I wanted to do is sleep with one of the other woman’s husband. She yelled at me for hours and told me how dirty and lustful I was. I was so humiliated and scarred and felt so alone! I couldn’t understand why she would ever say that to me. That is not what I would ever want

I want to say that these are only a few of the things that happened to me up to this point in my childhood. You see this is truly just an overview. There are so many other memories of abuse to us children. I will be continuing my report of abuse tomorrow.

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  • Oct 18, 2014

I was born and raised in the ministry known as Trinity Institute, or Christ's Church of the Restitution. Growing up, I was homeschooled and had little exposure to the outside world.

The women in this ministry were required to wear four items of clothing at all times: pants, blouse, skirt and tunic. This uniform was put in place to "protect" us from our own lust, and men's lustful eyes. Mary Whitlock was the originator and enforcer of this uniform, and if there were deviations from it, the offenders were "dealt with" and made to conform. By dealt with, I mean we were harshly told that we could not make any modifications to the uniform such as adding colors to the pleats, making the skirts out of different material/colors, or reducing the width of the pant legs. As a teenager, the uniform and restrictions were difficult to handle, as even going to the grocery store induced stares and questions from the public. Some even started calling us Smurfs because our outfits were blue and white.

Another issue I struggled with as a teenager was that women were treated very differently then men in this organization. Women were called, "Jezebels" and "Babylon", and it felt to me like everything was blamed on us. Women were constantly on the prayer chair getting their supposed sins exposed and dealt with. This was terrifying to me. I hated it when my Mom was the one in the hot seat. She would become very depressed and spend hours in what was called the prayer closet, praying that God would help her give up whatever it was that was being focused on at the time. It disturbed and pained me to see her that way.

I, of course, got dealt with as well, and I will never forget the fear and horror that Mary's scowling, angry face targeted at me induced. I was only 14 when it began, maybe younger.

One vivid memory is when I was told to appear at the Whitlock's house in Lewiston, CA. As I walked from the church to the house, I pondered whether or not the visit would be a good or bad one, hoping for the best. As soon as Mary opened the door, I knew it was not good. Her face said everything, I was in for it.

Looking back it's odd to me that a 14 year old girl is summoned to the pastor's house by herself. I was brought in to their prayer closet, where I was told that my "tail power" was disrupting the peace. At 14 I didn't even really know what that meant, all I knew is that I didn't want to be there, experiencing the displeasure of the pastor and his wife.

Furthermore, I didn't feel good about being a woman. I had to wear a funny-looking uniform that the men were not required to wear (they could pretty much wear whatever they wanted), I was told that the Bible required my submission to men, and everything was blamed on me, so why would anyone want to be a woman?

Jumping ahead to 1998, Mary Whitlock approached my mother with a proposition for me. There was this man, Kay Hiramine whom she was in ministry with in Colorado Springs, and there was an opportunity for me to work with him in the ministry he was currently employed, Wagner Institute. I hadn't been involved with Mary for several years, as I had just returned from attending Bible college in Canada, and I wasn't convinced that moving to Colorado was right for me.

Through conversations and persuasion, I was convinced to move to Colorado Springs to live with the McCausland family, to help them on occasion with child care, and to work for Wagner Institute in their accounting department. This was my first exposure to Kay and Julie Hiramine.

Coming from the background that I did, I was curious at their behavior and lifestyle. They drank alcohol, smoked cigars, dined out all of the time, and vacationed frequently. I had never been exposed to this lifestyle, and didn't realize Christians lived this way.

One of the girls I grew up with, Sara Raley, had moved in with the Hiramines several months before I came to Colorado, and she was the main (unpaid) caretaker of their two children at the time, Brianna and Stacia. Having a live-in nanny freed up the Hiramines for the lavish lifestyle they desired.

I enjoyed working at Wagner Institute, and quickly adapted to the culture. I made friends easily, and when two single women were hired several months after I'd been hired, we quickly became friends. They were very curious about the connection between the Hiramines and Mary Whitlock, and asked me about her ministry. At the time, Mary was acting as an intercessor, operating out of her home in Colorado Springs. She also attended Kay's church, Vision for the Nations.

I shared a few things about Mary and her ministry with the ladies I worked with, and when I was requested to appear at Mary's house for prayer, the ladies became even more curious.

During my prayer session, I was dealt with for things in my spirit that occurred in a previous life. I was told that I had been a mean prison guard in a previous life, and that I needed to repent of the sins I had committed back then.

Back at work the next day, the ladies wanted to hear all about my ministry, so I shared it with them, never thinking twice that it would cause an eruption down the road.

Two weeks later, I was once again summoned to Mary's house for ministry. I had no clue what was to come. A good friend of mine, Peter Crain took pity on my innocence and called me prior to my appointed ministry time. He told me I needed to stop by his house first, and that he needed to warn me about what was about to take place. When I got to the Crains house, Peter informed me I was in for some serious trouble. What I had shared with the ladies at work regarding my past life ministry at Mary's had gotten spread to the wider Wagner group, and questions were being asked. Did Mary believe in past lives? Does Kay believe in past lives? I had no idea that it was considered heresy to believe in past lives, as from the time I was a little girl I was taught that our spirit comes back into new bodies continuously in order to be perfected and delivered.

If I had been smart, right then and there I would have avoided going to Mary's house that night altogether, but I was still young (23) and heavily influenced by Mary and the group.

As expected, I was dealt with VERY harshly for exposing Mary's belief in past lives, and for bringing her ministry into question. She told me I was spiritually trying to kill her. Kay and Julie were there witnessing my demise, and unhappy that their beliefs were also being questioned. My parents were on the phone as well.

Mary, Kay and Julie covered up the entire thing by claiming that they were NOT referring to past lives in my ministry session, rather they were dealing with generational issues.

It wasn't long after all of that went down that Kay and Mike McCausland left Wagner Institute, and proceeded to convince the rest of us that were still working there to leave and join them in a new ministry. I was torn and didn't know what to do. I eventually gave in to pressure from my parents as well as pressure from Mary, Kay and Julie, and resigned from Wagner Institute.

Right after I resigned, I was told that there was no place for me in Kay, Mike and Mary's new ministry, and that I needed to move back to New York. I was devastated. I had only been in Colorado for 9 months, but really enjoyed living and working there. Now I was being banished not only from Colorado, but from everything I had ever known. There was no place for me in New York either. I had nowhere to live, as Mary and my parents made it clear I was not welcome back in Conesus.

I ended up moving into a tiny two bedroom apartment with my brother and sister in Rochester, NY, and continued my college education. I have not had contact with the Hiramines or Mary since then, 16 years ago, but I know the legacy of abuse and fear continues to this day, and many young women and their families are suffering as I did.

I am writing this account in hopes that my story will help those who are still in this awful bondage of what is now known as Generations of Virtue be free, and this legacy of abuse that has lasted over 30 years will once and for all be put to an end.

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  • Oct 10, 2014

Generations of Virtue is an educational and religious cult that lulls impressionable young women away from their families, isolates them from all their loved ones, and convinces them that no contact is safe outside the bonds of the commune. They eat together, work together and travel together under the mission of spreading the message of sexual purity. The underlying pretense of their oganization is sexual purity and under covering sexual sin, temptations and secret sexual fantasies. At first their organization appears to be helping guide parents to educate their children on the dangers of the internet and related media. Look deeper and underlying motives and activities reveal themselves.

Once a new member is indoctrinated into the group they are brainwashed in the "prayer chair". A large room has a single chair placed in the center of a ring of chairs of the existing, brainwashed followers. The cult leaders begin a series of sessions that can last for hours, in a sequence that can span months and/or indefinately. The girls are asked to recall sexual memories and sins. They are broken emotionally and pscyhologically under aggressive yelling, accusations, and allegations of vial and lewd sexual fantasties the girls are accused of keeping secret. These young women in late teens and early twenties are broken into submission and a life of total servitude to the male cult leader, Kay Hiramine. They work for him for years, for free.

Kay is a classic sociopathic manipulator who has conveniently surrounded himself with a team consisting of virtually all, young teen and twenty-something, virginesque corporate officers, all impressionable, and all quite unqualified for their positions. None of these young ladies have a relevant educational history, experience or work history before Generations of Virtue. Kay has given them unfitting titles of Chief Operations Officer, Product Manager, Lead Solutions Specialist, Course Engineer, Warehouse Manager, Director of Marketing, Base Operation Facilitator, and titles which they have no relevant understanding of. Many of these “corporate officers” were placed as teenagers in these roles.

Kay is using young girls to attract more young girls. Their resumes do not consist of credible certifications or work experience testimonies. Their resume’s have no references or prior corporate associations at all. Their resumes consist of their special interests such as ponies, chocolate, art, sunbeams, hats, stories, journaling, convertibles, travel, acoustic music, singing and coffee. These girls with no prior accomplishments tout world travel to France, Paris, Brazil, Germany, Greece, Japan, China, South Korea, Africa and they all profess to be having nothing but fun and the time of their lives. This is a manipulative presentation to attract other young female recruits into their service. Just check out their website by googling generationsofvirtue.org and check out the team and their bios.

Kay and Julie control what these young women read, converse about, their travel, their thoughts, and the couple has worked to truncate visitation and communication with their follower’s families, friends and all outside influences. They deny this, but ask the families to get the truth. One of the first indoctrination rituals the girls under go is to be seated in the intimidating prayer-chair over weeks and months. One by one the girls have their character dissected and criticized as they are emotionally and psychologically broken down to the core, pressured to admit vial sins and carnal thoughts under duress, including their personal thoughts of secret incestuous fantasies with parental figures, where they become willing to lie just to end the torment, and confrontation. This is a classic brainwashing technique and girls of this young age have no defense against it. These methods are almost always instituted for more sinister motives by the captors or cult leaders.

Kay believes he’s been granted special powers by God, and that God speaks to him with prophetic insights. Kay rules with absolute authority over what he calls Hiramine Haven, or the compound. He pretends to cast out spirits, to spontaneously heal physical and mental illnesses, and speaks as though he seems to wield God as his own personal magic wand and puppet. He exhibits very dangerous indications of a full blown psychopath. Kay presents himself with an image of an all powerful and all knowing power broker for God. In his youtube video found here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oLJtffyMSo) with David Yarnes, you can see him during his prayer at the end, exposing his authoritarian rage in short bursts. His true disposition flashes repeatedly, and quite obviously. He is manipulative and disconnected.

Sexuality and sexual exploitation and abuse is the “front” this cult uses to project an air of safe harbor, and likely a projection of more ominous undertakings. Kay is a traditional religious seminar hoaxster. He's able to use his young harem to motivate innocent and naive financial backers to fuel world wide travel with his girls. He is an opportunist and able to self promote himself under the guise of questionable and difficult to validate accomplishments, in order to gain access to sometimes credible affiliations. Virtually all affiliations are short lived or quick flashes as over time, nobody wants to be associated with Kay very long. His creepy demeanor begins to manifest itself rather quickly. So does his raging anger.

Rumored reports are that Kay is on the ropes and having financing problems. It is rumored that he's getting ready to relocate his group. There are dozens and dozens of victims of this cult, some dating back for 20 years, and to original founders, including a strange prophetess that has lead the direction of the organization for years with her spells and prophesies of the future. Rumor is she is recently deceased. Though this group claims to be Christian, inside there is talk of magic powers, special gifts, and reincarnation.

Women want to come forward. They are afraid. These women are terrified of having their lives, businessses and families threatened or torn apart by Kay and Julie Haramine. As many as 40 victims have agreed to begin coming forward to tell their story if we can provide a platform of communication. This is that platform. We will be letting victims know they can come here to post and communicate safely. We missing friends and family we want to create a platform that can be a warning to fugure families we wish to save from this predator group, operating under an innocent facade, but with wicked and manipulative undertones and motives beneath.

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  • Oct 22, 2014

Trinity Institute Generations of Virtue, Christ's Church of the Restitution Cult abuse Colorado Springs Nationwide

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Trinity-Institute/nationwide/Trinity-Institute-Generations-of-Virtue-Christs-Church-of-the-Restitution-Cult-abuse-Co-1184232

I am going to share one incident here, mind you this went on for years so when your reading this know I was entered the cult at age 8 and left at 18. For 10 years I was abused and brainwashed, being called many names and degrated, humiliated, and shuned by my friends because they were afraid if they didn't then they would be called out. The cult ruled by breaking you down mentally and emotionaly and by fear, fear that you would not be in Gods will or that you were trying to destroy "The Prophet".

This incident happened when I was around 15 years old. We were in up state New York where we had a huge building. We were in a "meeting", that is what we called church, and I was called out ( I never knew if this would be good or bad) infront of eveyone in the cult by Bishop Whitlock the self proclamed Prophet of God, I would look at Mary Whitlock (who alway sat away from the congragation becasue we were evil and she did not want us to contaminate her) because her face would tell me good or bad, if she was relaxed and had a peaceful look then it would be good if she had her scowl then I was in for it, and it was a scowl. Whitlock told me and everyone that I spiritually was trying to destroy all Gods work and that I would not be allowed back at Conessus, New York ever again and that I would be moving to Phoenix, AZ to work in the day care there. I was humilliated, scared, embarassed and I felt that I would die, I was just band from one of the cults areas and all my friends weren't even my sister was allowed there. So I moved to Phx (without my family) lived in a house with one of the older woman and worked at the day care from 6am to 6:30 pm Monday through Friday. I was originally suppose to be paid $25.00 a week. But that evenually did not make it to me, so I baby sat out side the cult on weekends to make money so I could eat. This went on for three years before I had enough and left. During this time I was not allowed to go to our schools (schools were in different state at different time through out the year, all the kids from 9 years old and up went, it was fun most of the time becuase all the kids in the cult our only friends would be there) at all, I was alone! I was isolated, in a different state then my family, my sister got to stay with my mom, I was not talked to for a long time because of the horible things i was doing spiritally, mind you that in my head I really had no idea what they were talking about because it was all spiritual no mental so at 15 I was confused and just had to wait it out until God told them I was no longer trying to destroy Gods work, or the prophet or his wife or any of the men in the cult. Oh yeah I was trying to take and destroy all the men in the cult spritually.

This is just one incident that happened to me becuase of this cult!

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  • Oct 20, 2014

Generations of Virtue Former Staff- Reports

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generations-of-Virtue-/Monument-Colorado-80132/Generations-of-Virtue-Humanitarian-International-Services-Group-HISG-Kingdom-Business-1182062

Generations of Virtue, Mary Whitlock, Kay & Julie Hiramine

AUTHOR: sttnnt - ()

SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 12, 2014

Every single young person who is working for Generations of Virtue has been "spiritually advised" to severely limit contact with their family. They have been deceptive in their answers to those who have questioned them on their family's activities to appear that they are close. They have been told during prayer sessions all kinds of sins and evil influences that are coming to them from their families, especially their mothers. Every contact, they are told, becomes an "open door" that allows evil spirits to attack the Generations of Virtue ministry, as well as Kay and Julie or their family personally.

If Kay or Julie has any type of problem arise during a normal work day, be it a financial problem, flat tire, missed flight, even a dropped item, someone must be blamed. In the past, Mary Whitlock (the main intercessor behind the Hiramines) would spend a great deal of time concentrating in prayer to track down whoever or whatever was the open door and cause of the problem. More often than not, it was traced back to a former member of the group, family member or friend. This, of course, sets up a great dilemma for the young adult.

If they are in contact with someone outside this group, the potential for them to be the source of the next trouble that comes along is quite high. To minimize their chances of being in trouble, they willingly cut off their former close relationships - it's just becomes too risky. They feel that their calling to do what God has intended them to do can't be accomplished if they remain close to their family or former friends.

There is also an emphasis on "past lives". Many of the reasons for separating from families has to do with a "past life event" that is still influencing them.

The most difficult part about trying to help people understand what is really going on behind the scenes of this ministry, is the fact that good and evil are mixed so closely together. The message of purity is something dear to God's heart, but so is the family unit He created us all to live in.

The Hiramines have willingly advanced their own ministries at the expense of many, many broken families AND have been covering it up. The young people have been so brainwashed by the "spiritual" information passed on to them, they do not see the abuse. They are held by a bondage that is invisible.

One of the hopes of posting on this site, is that the young people working for GOV can see the testimonies of many others who have experienced some of the same things they have and recognize it for the controlling power it really is.

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  • Oct 15, 2014

I lived at the "Mission" in Conesus, NY for eight years, from 01/2000-04/2008. I was 8 when my family moved to the mission and a week from turning 17 when we moved away. In that time period I whitnessed and was apart of many "prayer" meetings, living conditions for the children and youth, and working for the Hiramines and Generations of Virtue.

In 2001, my oldest sister moved to CO to help take care of Kay and Julie Hiramine's kids. About two years later, my next oldest sister moved out to CO to also help. In Jan 2005, I flew out to CO with my next older sister to stay with the Hiramines for 2-3 months and help them pack up their house to move. I was considered "on duty" for most of the day, of the five girls living in the Hiramine house (myself and 3 older sisters included), we had the day split up and only had a couple hours "free" and then one day off a week. Generations of Virtue was just beginning at this time. We were all unpaid by Kay and Julie but had a little allowance paid by the "Church" VFN every month.

The summer of 2005 and 06 I was back home in NY, but as the Hiramines spent the summers in NY at the Mission, I still helped and babysat a lot. I was always nervous babysitting, I never knew when something would be blamed on me if one of the little girls threw a fit or Julie got a stain on her shirt. One time in particular I was watching the Hiramine's second oldest girl and my little sister in the Hiramine girls room, as it was a little girls room with toys and no chairs, I leaned on her bed and read a book. I was seen "laying" on her bed and reported without my knowledge. The next evening during the adult prayer meeting I was summoned to the prayer chair, though I had no idea what I had done. Mary informed me that I had contaminated the girl's bed by "putting my tail power" into, and therefore ruining the little girl's precious sleeping place. The sheets could be washed but the bed could not. After that I left completely humiliated and horrified, I was afraid to sit on anything, worried that I might somehow "ruin" something. The mattresses stayed outside Mary's door for a few days, a horrible reminder when I had to walk down that hallway, then Mary decided the mattresses couldn't be redeemed and my dad and I had to take them out to the burn pile and burn them.

In 2007 GOV had started to get become more successful and the online website as well. The girl running the warehouse had to move suddenly and I was asked to take over. I was just 16. I shipped out all the online orders and kept up with the warehouse and was even given a GOV credit card. There was a minor shipping discrepency that I was taught, but as I didn't know any better and I was just doing what the online order said, it continued for quite a few months. I finally realized the err when reading a definition on the post office website and then asking a local post office rep. I immediatly told my "superviser" and she seemed aware of the situation and thought I knew, I said I didn't and why did it say that on the website and that the website needed to be changed. She said the website couldn't be changed and I just needed to correct the err, even though it would cost us more in shipping. Later when my family and I were about to move, I was accused by Mary and Julie of letting the err go on and trying to bring down the ministry. I left in utter shame.

There are many, many other stories, but this is all for now.

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  • Nov 18, 2014

Lost Daughter- Generations of Virtue

While my exposure to these people has not been as lengthy as some of the others, I have had the misfortune to see the turning of a family member away from her God given family. It all began with a focus on developing a deeper relationship with Lord and Savior. That being said, if it would have continued in that direction, I could not hope for anything more for my daughter. Any Christian parent’s desire is to have children that have a heart for the Lord. I believe God puts children in exactly the right family with exactly the right siblings and exactly the right parents. God does not make mistakes.

It all began innocently enough, with a trial period for my daughter to work with the Hiramines, Mary Whitlock and Generations of Virtue(GOV). What a noble and virtuous calling to work in a “ministry” that focuses on young people and their purity. After a three month intern, my daughter Courtney, returned home to work the summer with me in our family business. After the summer, Courtney returned Colorado and it was from that point forward that things began to take a turn for the worse.

Things began changing and not for the better from that point forward. While I would encourage people to pray for God’s guidance and leading in their lives, it was used as an excuse. “I’ll pray about it” became the pat answer to requests to attend any type of family gathering. Whenever that statement was given, that meant no, I will not come to my brother’s baptism, no I won’t come to my brother’s graduation, no I won’t come to my mom’s best friend’s funeral, no I won’t come for Thanksgiving, no I won’t come home for Christmas, no I won’t come to visit or associate with family....period.

Even communication fell under the “I’ll pray about it”. Again, I would encourage anyone to seek God’s direction in their life in all areas, but not to be used as a crutch or an excuse. Much of the influence came through “The Prayer Chair”. I believe my daughter and other young people were indoctrinated by this means. Under the guise of prayer and prophesy from Mary Whitlock, Kay Hiramine and Julie Hiramine, my daughter and others were coerced into the desired actions of the cult leadership. This would include distancing oneself from family, friends, and associates of the individual’s life before GOV. This distancing included emails and phone calls that would go unanswered with no response. We had the opportunity to question this practice before all communication ceased. We were told, when our numbers appeared on caller ID or emails came in, it was “prayed over” and she was told by God not to answer. Well, as a parent, when a child does not respond, whatever their age, it tends to raise a red flag. While there will be times that a parent and child or siblings don’t communicate, God calls us to restore those relationships. Eventually, almost all communication ceased.

There are many things we do in our day to day lives, that we do because God gave us the ability to think and act. By this I mean, I don’t ask God if I should go to work today or if I should love my kids today. I do these things because God gave me a brain, and I choose to honor Him with my life. If I live according to God’s word, then the things I do, I do because of my love for my Lord and Savior.

For an organization who professes to promote purity and Godly principles, why am I seeing actions that are contrary to what the Bible teaches. If I have young ladies working in my “Christian Organization” I would want them to promote family unity and relationships, not distance. If I saw distance appearing in those relationships, I would send people home to restore those relationships not condone tearing them apart. By that, I mean real time, not token appearances and photo ops that appear to promote there are meaningful relationships. This statement is for people who follow social media and think that things are all just great by the posts they see, but in reality, it could not be further from the truth. It is all deceptions and lies.

Living with this heartache is more than any parent wants to endure. We have lived through false accusations, the use of scripture that is directed to abuse God’s word for the benefit of the cult leadership. Verses taken out of context to give justification for actions, whereas if the scripture was taken in context, it reveals a totally different meaning. Using the scriptures to attack, we her parents, is an abomination to God’s word. This organization is not the only one I have seen use scripture out of context. I’ve seen brothers and sisters in Christ do the same, much to the damage of all people involved.

I am a sinner. I am described in God’s word as a sinner. I believe the bible to be the inerrant word of God. I have many faults and short comings, because I am a human being and am part of a fallen race. That being said, I have a redeemer, and that redeemer lives in me. My hope is in my redeemer. My desire would be for all men to know my redeemer, and have life and have it more abundantly.

So based on my interaction with these people and this organization, I would advise extreme caution of having any involvement with them. Their motives appear self-serving as evidenced by others who have gone before. My opinion is based on the fact, that I have lost contact with my daughter and feel they have turned her against me, my wife and her siblings, grandparents, extended family and friends. The alienation continues, and the desire of my heart is to have a relationship with my daughter restored to the way God. - Dennis Las Cruces

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  • Nov 6, 2014

Growing up in Generations of Virtue

In 2000 my family moved from our home in Michigan to the "mission" in Conesus, NY, the homebase of Kay and Julie Hiramine's ministry, Generations of Virtue. We lived there till 2008, when I was ten. Three of my older sisters are still part of the group and have lived with the Hiramines (one is still) and taken care of their girls, the first one moving out to Colorado in 2001, at age 15. I am not going to use their names in this report for privacy's sake, so instead I will refer to them as sister one, two, and three.

During my time at the mission, I was raised under Kay and Julie's teachings as well as that of Mary Whitlock (Kay and Julie's "mentor"). All of us kids in the group grew up very isolated and sheltered, and only had a vague and twisted idea of traditional Christianity or any life outside the group. This made it very easy to believe everything Mary taught us without a second thought. I was exposed to the "prayer chair" (see first article referenced Generations of Virtue for definition) travail, and prophetic claims on a daily basis, and the thought barely crossed my mind that any of this could be wrong.

Mary always quoted the scripture "the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, who can know it?" and interpreted this to meaning we did not know the motives and sinful thoughts inside our hearts, and it was her special gift from God to be able see for us. She also taught all the kids that although our bodies were young, our spirits were ageless and capable of having horrible motives and desires regardless of what we were conciously thinking, and therefore she would not be any softer on us than any of the adults. That meant that regular sessions on the prayer chair, restrictions, and isolation from others were normal for us, and all I had for understanding as to why was that my heart was doing something I was not aware of, and I must suffer loss because of it. What Mary told me about myself while I was on the prayer chair was always so shocking and different from what I was thinking, but I was taught to believe her and was too afraid to question it.

I started getting prayer when I was around three or four years old. I don't remember my first session, but I do remember being around that age and being told things like I wanted to be God and rule over everyone. Mary told me I had the disguise of a sweet, innocent young girl to make people like me, but it was only a tact to try to dominate them. She said my tact didn't work because I had an evil, dark power constantly radiating around me that made others not want to be with me. These are my first memories of the prayer chair.

My oldest sister Debbie died 15 years ago after a three year battle with a brain tumor. I was a year old when she passed, and Mary later told me I had been born to bring joy to my family during their time of grief, especially sister one who was very close to Debbie. However, because of my iniquity I had failed her, and the Hiramine's second oldest daughter (who was my age) had taken my place in my sister's heart. Mary believed that this Hiramine girl had a very special calling in life, and must be treated with extra love and care. This was partly because Mary, who believed in past lives and reincarnation, claimed that in another life she had somehow lost this girl and must make up for that by being more protective in this life. As I was the only girl her age, Mary viewed me as one of her biggest threats, saying I wanted to take her place or compete with her or tear her down. I was at risk for having anything taken away from me, from toys to any sort of affection or attention from my parents and older sisters, such as hugging or being able to sit on someone's lap.

In spring of 2007 (I was nine) when the Hiramine's came to the mission for the summer after being gone since fall the year before, this second oldest girl asked to see the things I had been given at Christmas. I showed her, terrified because I was almost certain she would feel bad that she didn't have the same things as me and tell someone I was bragging to her. Sure enough, the next morning my mom told me I was to get on prayer the next night. During this prayer session, not only was I yelled at and reprimanded for "trying to compete with her" and belittle her, but someone brought up that when I first saw her and we gave each other a hug it looked like I tried to choke her. Mary immediately said I could no longer control my actions because my iniquity was so starved from not seeing her and trying to dominate her. I don't remember if this was the same night or the next few times I got on prayer, but I remember Mary saying that I was the type of child that grew up to be someone like Hitler, and if I didn't repent now there would be no hope I ever would.

After the incident with the Christmas presents, I was under extreme restriction for almost a year (with the exception of several "trials"). I was not allowed to speak to anyone (save my parents and only if I had an urgent question) I was only allowed into several rooms, I couldn't read, play, pretend, watch TV, listen to anything, eat certain foods, or go outside unless I had a chore to do and none of the kids were out there or at the other end of the property. Usually once a week during this time I was called down to the meeting room at night to get on prayer. I would try to do anything to avoid it, which was by far the worst part of my entire experience there. I remember waiting to hear my mom's footsteps coming to bring me down to the meeting room and running and turning the shower water on so she would think I was taking a shower and they wouldn't make me come down. This only worked a handful of times. During the day, I tried to avoid people at all costs, for fear that my "power" as I mentioned earlier, would hurt them. As silly as it sounds, I created hiding places for myself that I could run to whenever I heard a person approach so I could stay out of sight. I shared a room with two of my sisters, and at night I would run upstairs and crawl under my bed and wait till they were asleep before I would crawl out and go to bed myself. I would consider it a great success if they asked where I was because one, it gave me hope they actually might care about me, and two, it showed they hadn't felt my "power" and known I was already in the room. I truly believed I was as worthless and cursed as Mary made me out to be.

In spring of 2008 my family (besides my three older sisters) were forced to leave the group. There is so much more I could say, but here is a taste of what growing up in this group was like.

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  • Nov 10, 2014

Sisters

Reading this over again breaks my heart yet again that we believed Mary and went along treating people that way because we were scared. I remember when we were kicked out in 2008, and I almost was allowed to stay, I was so terrified. Of either staying at the Mission and Generations of Virtue, or leaving with my family because the world was unknown and scary. One of the last meetings we were apart of, where Mary told our family (excluding the 3 living with the Hiramines) in front of the entire group "When you go out in the world and people think and say you are a nice family, just always remember you are NOT!" That single statement haunted me for years. I literally thought we were scum and God would strike us dead within three months or something. But God didn't. As the years went on, and we slowly started to realize our life at the Mission wasn't right, received truly Godly counsel and got in touch with other ex members and learned life wasn't as it seemed or as "Mary said." Our prayer and agenda now is only that the abuse and manipulation will end and the people still in bondage will be set free.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer used this metaphor: if a drunken driver was driving down a main street, killing people left and right, I wouldn't say, 'Well, let me pray.' I would need to do anything I could to stop him.

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  • Oct 23, 2014

If your in a church where you do everything they say and your afraid... RUN!!

This is another update on my experience with Bishop Whitlock and Mary Whitlock: After I had my little girl one of the ladies came in my room a few days later and asked me if I had O type blood. I told her yes. She said to lay her in the indirect sun because she was slightly yellow. Never explained that I should get some kind of shot that would keep my next child safe. So a year later I had a son while we were visiting the Texas church. After I had him, one day later I noticed that he was very yellow and and flinching his head and screaming. So I called everyone in the church for help. I took him to the hospital and they did 6 blood exchanges and from that point on to this day Peter has had Cerbral Palsy. He had other complications.

This all was caused by me not having a shot after I had Priscilla. I have to live with this my whole life. Others can get free of the cult and move on and life goes on. But not me! I have to know that my son is damaged for a life time. Although Peter is the most amazing artist and such an amazing young man. I wish everyone could meet him. Bishop Whitlock was very angry with us for going to the hospital. He said when I called him that God said Peter swallowed something and if I do go to the hospital only let them do exrays. Well, I'm glad I took him. They saved his life. He has touch so many people in his life. I will spend my whole life loving and taking care of him, I love him so much. So another word from God and it was wrong. Bishop Whitlock was out of control with how high he thought he was with God. His problem was he believed it. They were so frustrated with me at this point.

My next child died in my womb at 9 months. So here I am not feeling any movement from the child in me and have to wait to go into labor. I told them that I wasn't feeling anything. They pretty much ignored this. I had the baby and he was gone. We buried him in Conesus N.Y.. I lost so much blood that I could not even sit up. I got very ill and almost died. I was shunned like you will never believe. I never recovered inside from this. It was the worse day of my life. From that point on I was told that killed my baby. That in the spirit I was a baby killer. This was brought out in meetings.

This was more than just humiliating... I have no words for the damage that did. I love children and they were the BABY KILLERS! After I got out I researched all that I went thru and went over everything with doctors. I got my answeres. I needed this shot after each birth. They didn't let us go to doctors and if we leaned in that direction we were out of the will of God. People who did that never lasted. You just die or let your children die. Pretty messed up. I have a little christmas bulb that says Michael Matthew on it and put it out every year so we don't forget him. More happenen during this time. It's just not enough room on this page to write it all. These were the highlights.

My last child was ok because she was my blood type. I still did not know why Peter was damaged or Michael Matthew died. So I had one more child... So much more happened. We are all struggleing with this story, because there are so many details. The little things that were said inbetween. The shunning, the prayer closet dealings, feeling devistated over loosing my child, everyone mad at you. My husband was going along with the shunning. He basically was told I was a baby killer. He believed it. My regret at this point is that I didn't tell them I didn't agree and was leaving. I still had not money and nowhere to turn. I felt stuck. That is why I'm telling this to free others from feeling stuck.

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I started my writings yesterday: I want to mention my daughter. Out of all the children who were raised in this cult, she was one of the hardest hit. She is 41 years old now. After she read what I wrote yesterday she called me sobbing. My words made her remember and realize what I went through. She said to me tonight that she was proud of me for stepping out and finally telling our story. She said, "mom don't stop telling our story". She couldn't even stop crying over the phone. I believe that the lord was healing a very big wound. She said that she felt like I was protecting her by saying how wrong this was. She was hurt deeply by the Bro. B and Mary years. By me coming forward now is like making up for the weakness I displayed during those years we were deceived.

Back in 1986 we were having meetings in Chickasha Oklahoma. A lot of people came to this weeks meetings. A young man that I had met once before, came from New York City and was there as well. Bro. B. in the middle of one of his teachings, came forth with some news about me and that young man. He announced that God had told him that this person and me should be together and get married.... IN TWO DAYS!!! Well, this person and I never talked between that day and the day we were to be married. ( we did meet in New York months before) I went to Bro. B. and said to him that I hadn't talked to him yet. Bro. B. said, "you have the rest of your life to talk"... I left his office feeling weird. Every girl wants a guy to ask her to marry him?? The point here was they told you what God said, and you did it. No questions asked. If you didn't do it, you were going against the will of God. Who wants to do that.

I was a single mom and this meant that this strange man was coming into our home. I wanted to meet someone and get married, but not like this. I trusted Bro. B.and this person and I were married in two days just like he said. This was the beginning of my new level of nightmares.

Through this marriage I had 4 home births without any medical help. We were told to only have your husband and me in the room. I can't tell you how scary this was for me, because I had a daughter 13 years before as a C-section and when I had her I had complications which i would have died if I would have not been in a hospital. My husband knew nothing at all about women or childbirth, like I said he was new in our fellowship and right off the streets of New York City. Now married to me and about to give birth to a child. They told us to trust God rather than man. So going to the hospital was trusting in man??? To me, and sitting where I sat in this group, i saw that men were held to a higher esteem than women. My new husband seemed to jump on that idea. Before I write about that birth, for the next 4 years I had 4 births two girls, two boys. My son Peter has cerebral palsy, my other son Michael Matthew died at a full term birth. He is buried at the Mission.

When I had my first daughter with this marriage, I went into labor and I just didn't seem to be making progress after a few days of labor. This made Bro. B and Mary very angry. This is what happened with my first daughter years ago. So I was very scared with no doctor or midwife or hospital. The evening of the second day Bro. B. came into my room with Mary and said, "If you don't have this baby by midnight God is going to take the baby. Well, I labored all night and at about 5 or 6 in the morning I started pushing. I pushed for 3 hours and out came our angel. Almost 10 pounds! So envision this... my husband is mad at me because i couldn't hurry and have this baby and Bro. B. was mad at me. To say the least Mary was very mad at me. So God didn't take the baby at midnight... Hmmmmmm. Well, a week later Mary came to me and said that God did take the baby and it was a boy, but replaced the baby in my womb with a girl. It was my loss she said. Wow!!! This was as false as you get. Years later after most of us one at a time got away from her, I asked a very close person to Mary why she said this. It was obviously false information. This person replied to me, " Mary said that if she didn't think of something quick it would have made Bro. B. look like a false Prophet"...Mary was also a false prophetess..How many other things did they out and out lie about... I had been duped!!!

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  • Oct 17, 2014

MASS Testimonial of Generations of Virtue Cult Abuse

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generation-of-Virtue/Monument-Colorado/Generation-of-Virtue-Mine-was-a-somewhat-different-story-Monument-Colorado-1183372

My affiliation with GOV starts years before it existence with my mother being influenced by Bishop Whitlock for many years. He was the founder of a group that has had several names but after his death Mary Whitlock, his common law wife, took over his ministry and eventually became " Visions For The Nations". This was where "Generations of Virtue" was birthed.

Now back to my connection, Mom was eventually drawn in and moved to where ever thy told her to.Including New York City in the old Bradford Hotel that was infested with rats and roaches and eventually closed. The ladies would dress in blue and white smock type uniforms and stand on the sidewalk and speak to anyone that would listen. They held meetings and people would come and either become enthralled or run! Then Mom moved to New Jersey and I am not sure where she went from there as she did not keep in touch with me. Now just to let you know Mom was a very bright woman with 2 degrees from Penn State and Harvard, and a broken heart as the love of her life, my Dad left her after a 22 yr marriage.

Eventually Mom was in Lewiston CA and contacted me as the building and property was being sold and she was coming east. My daughter was getting married and she was coming to the wedding then going to Conesus, New York. When Mom went to the wedding she came in a pink toned uniform the same as the white and blue ones. After the wedding she went to Conesus and would not let us drive her but made her own arrangements. She was to live in the building that is known as THE MISSION. Now owned by Kay Hiramine under what name I am not sure now. Over the years I would go visit Mom and sometimes my adult children wanted to connect with her as their grandmother. They would go to hug her and she would resist and block the hug. Later I was told by my mother that the hugs were 'lustful". She would let me hug her though. Mixed messages always.

Mom had little to no money so my husband and I began supporting her monthly and helping with extra expenses when the need arose. All this doesn't sound BAD does it? Well under all this was a true distortion and self loathing brought on from hours Mom spent on or in charge of the "PRAYER CHAIR".

When the main group would go back to the HOMES in CO. While a few families and several older ladies stayed at the Mission where the heat was bad and Mom was cold as I found out later due to poor heating.Mom started having bad health and I was summoned to her side. At that point Mary Whitlock started wooing me with private conversations and questions of my history with my mother. That history is a book in its self. I returned home and Timing gets a bit fuzzy here for me as my husband left for another and I was a mess as it was 43 yr marriage. I then got another call that mom was getting weaker and could I come and stay for a time. So off to NY I went.

Moms health was declining and at that time Mary Whitlock started a time of "ministry" and I was included in the sessions. Mom was accused of hating Mary and trying to harm her and lusting after Mary's position. I was later to find out that for years my mother was giving Mary Whitlock a $100. 00 a month out of the ever so small income she had from my dads SSI. No one was to know because the LORD TOLD MARY IT WAS BECAUSE MY MOM OWED IT TO HER for passed OFENSES!!!! All the time this was going on Mary had very sweet and comforting times with me and encouraged me to move there until my life was straightened out or Mom passed away. So I did stay. My first big mistake. I was hurting for many reasons and was holding on by a thread.

The difference when Mary, Kay and Julie were at the Mission and when they were in CO was almost comical. We all at the Mission got along and had fun and enjoyed our fellowship until the dreaded conference calls 2 times a week or on demand of Mary. All day long one of several people were at Mary's beck and command on the phone for hours of prayer to which the children were called to spend time in active prayer for someone for some reason during the school time or playtime.

To cut some out and get to my story as time passed I got more and more involved and was drawn in at a very vulnerable time. It ended up I was doing the financial books for the church, personal accounting and bill paying for Mary Whitlock and for GOV. Along with sewing what ever was needed at what ever time it was needed. I truly did not mind as it kept my mind off myself but then the hammer comes down! After I left my home and moved in lock stock and barrel and Mom had passed away I had to fill in where others had worked and had been told to leave the ministry. Never a good thing.

At one point I was doing all the above stated things, then was given the responsibility of the oldest Heramine daughters home schooling while they were in CO and she was on discipline. That had been the assignment of a mom who home schooled her own children while taking care of their youngest child who has downs syndrome. Such a sweetie. She also was daily on the phone with Mary and responsible for so many parts of the function of the ministry, while her three oldest under 20 year old daughters where with the Hiramines raising their children. Home schooling them and much more.

To fill you in I was in my 60's and had been semi handicapped by Lymes and Fibro and needed the use of electric scooter for any distance. The building is huge and the offices of GOV was at either end of long hallways so I had my scooter inside. but then up stairs to VFN offices and my room and sewing room. Needless to say I was exhausted and in pain at the end of the day when no one was at the Mission but worse when they all came and the demand was more.

So much more to say but can be expanded later. One thing I always had a very hard time with was when one young girl was put on the prayer chair because she was causing trouble "in the spirit" for the CHOSEN child of the Hiramines. Or directly to Mary even when they were in CO and she was in NY. It became almost daily when the Hiramines were in NY. This was emotional and discipline abuse.

When it was my time to be tested on the prayer chair I was accused of making myself indispensable and wanting power. Yet I was told to do all that I was doing. Things went down hill fast and when I thought back it started when I told Mary that I was having financial problems as my husband lost 2 of our 3 businesses and was going to divorce me. After several weeks of degradation on the prayer chair I was told I had 2 weeks to get out and no one was to help or speak to me. I had my entire belonging there on 4 floors and no money or place to go. I could be given $500.00 if I left that much worth of my belonging there as I in the spirit was demanding to be taken care of and that was not going to happen according to Mary with Kay's approval. So I packed up as much as I could gave most of everything to Salvation Army and drove to CT to stay with friends for a time. I was truly homeless and so sick and traumatized I could not mentally function.

I witnessed there children, young mothers and old woman being spiritually and emotionally abused and used in the name of the Lord. Unless you have ever come under the spell of a dynamic personality you may not understand how this works. Please don't judge those of us that were members and seek the truth that the only ones that benefited from all of this was truly Kay and Julie and the ministry of Generations of Virtue. Free help and donations to cover ALL expenses including luxury cruses and vacations with full staff and child care for their 5 children.

I hope I have given some view of the wrong that is being done as families are broken apart for the purpose of alienation and servitude to GOV and the Hiramines and will be dismissed when the time comes they are no longer needed. Please be aware.

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  • Oct 14, 2014

Generations of Virtue Humiliation

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generations-of-Virtue/Monument-Colorado/Generations-of-Virtue-GOV-Visions-for-the-Nations-FellowshipVFN-Kay-Hiramine-Julie-Hi-1182757

New report just filed. More shaming, humiliation and extremist cult activity. Kay and Jukie Hiramine are real cons and clowns. Don't let your daughter fall victim to their organization. Outward it looks like purity, but that's been the facade for sexual and mental abusers for centuries.

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  • Oct 12, 2014

Here's a response from someone who was there!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generations-of-Virtue/Monument-Colorado/Generations-of-Virtue-Kay-and-Julie-Hiramine-The-history-of-GOV-as-told-by-one-who-was-th-1182538

This is a story from a mother who was INSIDE the cult. Please warn those you know. If could be your daughter who gets brainwashed tomorrow.

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  • Nov 12, 2014

New post about the Hiramine sickos at the bottom of this link

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generations-of-Virtue/Colorado-Springs-Colorado/Generations-of-Virtue-Kay-Julie-HiramineGOVMary-Whitlock-cult-Organization-brainwashes-1187341

The Hiramine's run a very dangerous game. They focus on sin they claim only "they" can see through special God given powers. They encircle a young woman seated in a chair surrounded by her peers. Then Kay and Julie Hiramine tell the circle of women the wickedness they see in the girl seated at the center. They accuse her of fantasies about intercourse with animals. They accuse her of idolizing her family. They accuse her of sexual fantasties with her father. If she denies it they call her a liar. They isolate her. The other girls turn their back on her. Some approach her and tell her that she must admit it. Eventually they break her spirit in session after session, over months. Their "special" powers exalt them as judges over the women, representing the only viable place to obtain any form of approval, value and affection. If non compliant, she's starved with coldness and becomes an outcast by the others til she comes around.

The women are moved into the giant Hiramine residence, to impress them. Once the women submit enough they are given special titles and responsibilities. They are told their place is with the Hiramine's who are on a special mission to save the world. They are given a 7 day a week list of chores to fufill for free. They are trained to entice and lull others to the chair of restitution, the prayer chair, where magical accusations occur, the only possible path to cleansing lust, and acheiving a life of purity.

The Hiramine predecessors, specifically Brother Bishop (Brother B) is reported to have traded sexual favors in exchange for helping "purge" lust from women's hearts. His partner out of wedlock was Mary Whitlock (recently deceased), who left her 4 chilcren and husband behind many years ago, to follow the insane Brother Bishop on a tirade of abuse that lasted decades. It is suspected, though not confirmed YET, that additional inappropriate behavior is occurring between Kay and some of his innocent young followers. It would seem likely he would be indulging with the women. When a power hungry, egotistical, sociopathic control freak, tears teenage women from their families, spends months having his group seed their minds with "magic visions" of sexual impurities, then enslaves a large group of women around him, SOMETHING MORE SINISTER EXISTS. This is not a new game.

This SCAM s hundreds of years old. These claims of magic power, the false propheteering, the enslavement, the passive/aggressive and manipulative game to drive young women into vile competition and submission, is an old con. The mentally ill Hiramine couple have conjured images in the brains of otherwise and once innocent minds. The Hiramine's have been questioned about their strange Harem. The victims report it. But the Hiramine's want to continue to recruit money and girls from churches, and continue Julie's book selling career. To justify how many families they've destoryed, they claim every single girl came from an abused home. When parents show up to make contact with their daughters the Hiramine's threaten them by tellling them they'll make allegations against the parents in their communities, at their jobs, in their churches. In certain cases they have.

Now the girls are not just living in a big home and being bribed with the only affection and approval they have access too. Kay and Julie want their slaves everywhere they go. They want to appear wholesome and need the women to be the testimony of their efforts to change the world. They need the image to attract book buyers and donations to fund their big homes, their cruises, their plane trips, their remodels, their cigars, their booze, and one big never ending vacation. The girls are a shill game. If anyone tries to stop the Hiramines they use external intimidatation to frighten family members. Kay has created an image of access and hobnobbing with the US President, and attachments to big organizations, and he uses it to intimidate innocent families who don't know any better. They have programmed the young girls for years to expect assaults from the outside, especially from their own families, who are wicked and want to stop God's work. They have cut off access, organized massive guilt campaigns with the girls, and sealed their emotional coffins shut with the nails of fear and isolation. The girls won't speak of the ridiculous things the Hiramines teach behind closed doors. They won't share how allegedly one daughter killed the other in a former life, and how she was punished for it in this life. They won't talk about the magic powers the Hiramines claim to have, and how they "see in the spirit". The Hiramines spin it with clever antidotes to confuse those calling them out.

Every tactic, every word, every move and every manipulation is in complete contradiction to scripture. Kay and Julie Hiramine are not powerful. They do not have magic powers. They are exploiters. They are scripture twisters. They are liars. They are opportunists. They are abusers. They are manipulators. They are prideful, controlling, angry, and without concience. There is a special place for people like this. What an atrocity that they represent themsevles as Christians. It is tragic in every sense.

KAY AND JULIE HIRAMINE- SEND THOSE WOMEN HOME IN GOOD HEALTH AND EXIT THE BUSINESS. REPENT. APOLOGIZE, OR NOT. YOU MUST RELEASE THESE WOMEN TO THEIR FAMILIES.

IT IS TIME FOR THE HIRMAMINE'S TO DROP THE CON, RELEASE THE GIRLS TO THEIR FAMILIES, OR PREPARE FOR A WAVE OF LITIGATION, INVESTIGATIONS AND FINALLY, A DISCLOSURE OF THE FALSE DOCTRINES, THE DECEIT, THE FALSE ACCUSATIONS, THE TEACHING OF PAST LIVES, AND THE LIES THAT REPRESENT THE CORNERSTONE AND FOUNDATION OF THEIR ILLUSION AND CULT GAME.

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  • Nov 6, 2014

My overview of Generations of Virtue, Kay and Julie Hiramine and Mary Whitlock, is from an outsider's viewpoint. My family was close friends with a family who was very involved with the aforementioned ministries. We lived near each other for a lot of my childhood and I developed a very deep friendship with their second oldest daughter. Their entire family was very dear to me as they were so God-centered, loving and caring to each other and their parents loved each and every one of their children. Their house was a home-away-from-home to me and my friendship with their daughter and them remained strongly intact despite my family's move accross the country.

Shortly after we moved I learned that my friend and her family were moving to up-state New York to live at a Mission for the ministry I knew they were a part of. I should mention before I continue that as close as I was with this friend - we laughed, cried, prayed and grew in the Lord together - the one subject we were never permitted to discuss, per my friend, was the "secret" prayer ministry her family was involved with.

In the years that followed their move to Conesus, NY our friendship started to slowly change and deteriorate. We still kept in touch and talked constantly, but there were more and more secrets on her end - more things in her life that she was not allowed to discuss. The most drastic change occurred when she told me in tears that she had to move to Colorado to live with the Hiramine's and help in whatever way she could. She was clearly sad, even depressed but still could not elaborate as to who they really were and why she had to go.

Upon her arrival there is when our friendship took a drastic change. EVERYTHING was secret, she was only allowed a half-day off once a week (I believe her day off was on a rotating schedule with other girls at the time), and her duties were so overwhelming. Throughout the following 4 years she would travel with this family on lavish vacations (as their nanny/cook/whatever they needed) and yet at the same time was admittedly spoiled materially. Now, her and I both come from very large families - I have 8 siblings, she has 9 - so lavish living was not necessarily something either of us were accustomed to. Her family most certainly always provided for her physical and material needs but after moving in with the Hiramine's, she acquired a lot of lavish and expensive possessions that she told me they bought her. I only mention that as I truly believe it is part of the manipulation process... as in "we are the ones who really love you", "look at all the wonderful things you can do and have if you stay here". As the years went on this thought pattern became very apparent in my friend.

Now fast forward to when I am 19. I went through some difficult things and sadly, found myself pregnant and single. It was one of the hardest times for me and although my friend and I hadn't been that close for the previous 2 years I had to call her with the news. It was one of the most difficult things I can remember doing when I was at that point in my life. Her response was of course shock, sadness and thankfully support for me. After our conversation she invited me to "get away" from things and meet her in Conesus, NY as she was going to be there for a time during the Summer. I was shocked at an opportunity to visit the Mission as I got the impression from the past 7 years of our friendship that a visit to either New York or Colorado where she was currently living was out of the question for me.

At any rate, I jumped at the opportunity to finally see my friend and her family again. It was absolutely wonderful to see them and I honestly had a great time as I love her parents and siblings dearly. They were wondeful, loving and gracious to me as they had always been. Unfortunately, I did leave there with a few red flags in my mind. She started telling me that I would just love Colorado and would be welcomed there by the Hiramine's and that they could help me through this difficult time. I participated in a prayer session there that was extremely disturbing and my spirit did not witness to their prayer methods and general "spirit" in the room. I was not, however, present for the private "prayer chair" session that followed as I was asked to leave at that point. The living conditions were not the best for any of the families at the Mission at this time. It was an extremely old building and quite massive with huge grounds and endless halls/rooms, floors, etc..

About 3 or 4 months later my friend called me and excitedly invited me to Colorado for Thanksgiving - on the Hiramine's! It would be at the near end of my pregancy, right before I wouldn't be able to fly. I accepted and looked forward to another week with my friend. It wasn't until I arrived that I realized why I was being allowed in to all the secrets all of a sudden. You see, when I got there my friend was permitted time off each day - for the first time in years according to her - to basically spoil me all on the Hiramine's dime. She took me hiking, site-seeing, paying my admission wherever we went. Lastly, she took me to visit Mary Whitlock. She had "words of wisdom" for me, gushed over me and gave me gifts - a woman I had never met or knew about before this day. She also gave my friend a couple hundred dollars to take me shopping and spoil me. The entire time it felt very weird - like they were trying to buy my devotion to them.

The other thing I witnessed while there was that Julie, the mother of 3 girls did absolutely nothing! all childcare, laundry, homeschooling, cooking, driving kids to private violin, dance, and ballet lessons, waking with an infant in the middle of the night, etc., was completely on my friend. The only thing I witnessed Julie doing was going on numerous, daily, shopping trips and coming home with extremely expensive, high-end clothing for herself and her kids. I could not get past the fact that everyone in Conesus, NY seemed to have given up their entire lives, a portion of their finances and were willing to give up everyday comforts and luxeries to live in the middle of nowhere in a run down building, whilst the Hiramine's were living it up in a huge home in Colorado Springs. Their children were in private lessons for everything and had unlimited high-end material possessions, toys, furniture, clothing, etc..

Julie Hiramine's youngest daughter was an infant at the time and my friend had to sleep with the moniter to get up with the baby any time she stirred. My friend was very paranoid about this as she had to make sure she got to the baby before Julie heard her. She also had to get up quite frequently with I believe the 3rd oldest child who woke up many times each night I was there with night terrors. My friend's job was to make sure, no matter what, that Julie did not hear anything and to console the infant and toddler without disturbing Julie.

One of the saddest things I saw in just that one week was that even though the oldest Hiramine daughter was only about 9 or 10 at the time, my friend and everyone in the family and house were unbelievably cruel and mean to her per Mary Whitlock's instructions. Apparently, she was an evil girl and they had to "break her" from what she was "going to become" by locking her up, not speaking to her, etc.. I never witnessed this child doing anything other than crying or being extremely sad over the way everyone had to treat her. It was heartbreaking and the only explanation I was given was that Mary said so. Also, Mary had prophesied over the 2nd oldest girl and claimed she had special gifts and was the "chosen" daughter. I am not sure what she was chosen for but she was unbelievably spoiled and doted on. We had to drop her off to Mary's for her special one on one play time - that only she could have - Mary had an upstairs loft-like room set up like a complete dream room for any little girl. Endless books, American Girl dolls, doll furniture and just way too many toys, games, puzzles etc. to remember. My friend informed me that this child was special and chosen and that Mary did this all for her and the oldest girl was never allowed to go there to play.

On the last day there my friend told me that they could offer me a place to stay, help me get a job and basically anything I needed if I would stay and be a part of their ministry. I was polite and said I would think about it. After getting home I told my friend that although I was grateful for the offer, I already had a home and my family was supportive thus I wouldn't be moving.

This was basically the end of our friendship, she would only take my calls about twice a year after that and was not able to come to my wedding two years later with no reason why. I even offered to pay her way, etc.. I truly believe that the leaders involved with this ministry were confident that I was in an impressionable enough condition that I would easily be manipulated and coerced into joining. When they found out I did not fall for it I became an instant threat to them based on what I had witnessed. The years that followed my visit I questioned her on a few things that I had observed and that was basically it. One day she answered the phone and when she realized it was me said she could not talk and to please never call her again. I reached out to her over the next year or so through letters, e-mails and texts and never got a reply or explanation of any kind.

I will never stop praying for my friend, her sisters, and other girls trapped in this ministry. For any others who read this and have a child, sibling or friend entrenched in this ministry, please be encouraged that God is in control and is the God of the impossible. A few years ago the rest of my friend's family reached out to inform me that they were out and about the situation with their 3 daughters. As sad as the latter news was I was so encouraged and amazed at the wonder working power of God. You see, my mom and I had definitely had the impression that this ministry was very cult-like and had been praying for over 10 years that this family's hearts and minds and eyes would be opened and they would see the truth. The fact that her parents were out - a family that had been involved in the ministry before my friend was even born - had been delivered has just burned inside of me a passion, hope and reminder that even when we think God's forgotten, He hasn't! My prayer is that each and every lie is exposed and every girl is reunited with their families so that true healing can begin to take place and relationships can be restored.

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  • Oct 22, 2014

Mary Whitlock/ Generations of Virtue

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Mary-Whitlock-Generations-of-Virtue/Monument-Colorado/Mary-Whitlock-Generations-of-Virtue-Abuse-of-members-and-children-Monument-Colorado-1184017

In 1980 my Mom and I moved to ReddingCalifornia. I was 7 years old. We moved to join this supposedly wonderful Church named Trinity Institute or later changed to ChristChurch of the Restitution and some years after I left Generations of Virtue. The woman and all girls were made to wear a uniform that consisted of white pants, a white blouse, a light blue skirt and a blue tunic so that our lustful bodies were covered. Even the baby girls were made to wear this uniform.

When we first joined some of my first memories were when we would go to Lewiston for church and all of our mothers would be in a prayer closet getting screamed at by Mary Whitlock and other women in leadership. On many occasions over the years I remember Mary screaming at our moms telling them that if they didn’t make the right choice that they would die by midnight. I remember always being thankful that our moms must have made the right choice in the spirit because they would all still be alive in the morning. I remember all of us kids standing outside of the closed door looking down at our mothers shoes and hearing them being screamed at for hours and hours. We were hungry and when any of us kids knocked at the door to see when they would be done so we could eat. Mary or one of the other women would open the door and scream at us to go away.

This went on for years and years and is still happening.

In the mean time My Mother and I were moved around from State to State wherever we were told to live by Bishop and Mary Whitlock.

When I was 11 our mothers were told to take all of us kids that were of the age of 9 and older to ChickashaOklahoma and that we were going to be going to a school for a time where they were going to teach us about the Bible and how to cook and clean.

When our mothers left we were told that they didn’t know when we would see our families again and I remember all of us girls crying and being afraid.

This was only the beginning of True Hell on Earth for us.

I remember being in so called Bible class for hours and hours and one by one being called to sit in the prayer chair to have lustful and evil Demons cast out of our eyes which meant that whatever adult at the time that was leading the class or prayer would get up in our faces and grab our stomachs and scream in our faces to cast the Demons out. This scared me so bad and was so humiliating! We would also have to lie on prayer mats on our bellies and everyone that was in the class was made to lay hands all over our bodies and scream and pray for our lust to be cast out. The adults would join in as well whether it was Bishop, Mary or whoever they had put into place to lead the so called service or class.

As far as us girls knew it was just us that had lust and were bad. The boys seemed to be free from it. We were degraded in front of each other we were made to feel dirty and stupid. When one of us was being screamed at, no one would talk to us because then they would be in trouble as well. We were alone and scared and hurt. I don’t know how to get these emotions out that I and my friends felt. We didn’t have anyone to protect us. I want to say that I watched my friend Sarah be treated like this and so much more!!!! She was always being degraded and humiliated and called a w****. But so was I. you see Sarah and I developed physically sooner then some and I personally think that because Bishop Whitlock and some of the other men looked at us that Mary Whitlock made us a huge target. We were the dirty w*****. Sarah will be telling her story and every word is the truth.

I don’t remember ever personally being targeted about a specific past life but others were. I remember that Bishop and Mary said that he had a sister who had passed away and he claimed that she was nothing but a w****. They told my friend Sarah that she was his sister reincarnated. Bishop and Mary seemed to manipulate most of the church with this belief to profit them in whatever it was that they wanted at the time. When I was about 12 Bishop and Mary Whitlock told my mother that she would be getting married to almost a complete stranger the very next day. I pretty much freaked out. I was so scarred for her! It was horrible. She did this because she truly thought that this is what god told her to do through them.

After she married my mother and my stepfather were sent to New York City and I was sent to the Mission in Conesus New York to live on my own. One of the mothers that also lived there home schooled any of us children that were sent there to help out at the Mission without our parents. We shopped for out own food and cooked for ourselves.

One time when I was around 13 or 14 we were having a big retreat where a lot of the members came together at the Mission and at one of the services Bishop Whitlock asked me if I was ready to get married to a boy that was 17 or 18. I said no and was completely humiliated in front of the church members because I didn’t want to do Gods will. It was a short time after that that I was pulled out of bed at five in the morning and told to go to the prayer closet where I was met by Mary and at least 10 to 15 woman and she screamed at me saying that all I wanted to do is sleep with one of the other woman’s husband. She yelled at me for hours and told me how dirty and lustful I was. I was so humiliated and scarred and felt so alone! I couldn’t understand why she would ever say that to me. That is not what I would ever want

I want to say that these are only a few of the things that happened to me up to this point in my childhood. You see this is truly just an overview. There are so many other memories of abuse to us children. I will be continuing my report of abuse tomorrow.

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  • Oct 17, 2014

Cult, scammers, abusers, false prophets

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generations-of-Virtue/Monument-Colorado-80132/Generations-of-Virtue-Christs-Church-of-the-Restitution-Vision-for-the-Nations-Trinit-1183278

I was born and raised in the ministry known as Trinity Institute, or Christ's Church of the Restitution. Growing up, I was homeschooled and had little exposure to the outside world.

The women in this ministry were required to wear four items of clothing at all times: pants, blouse, skirt and tunic. This uniform was put in place to "protect" us from our own lust, and men's lustful eyes. Mary Whitlock was the originator and enforcer of this uniform, and if there were deviations from it, the offenders were "dealt with" and made to conform. By dealt with, I mean we were harshly told that we could not make any modifications to the uniform such as adding colors to the pleats, making the skirts out of different material/colors, or reducing the width of the pant legs. As a teenager, the uniform and restrictions were difficult to handle, as even going to the grocery store induced stares and questions from the public. Some even started calling us Smurfs because our outfits were blue and white.

Another issue I struggled with as a teenager was that women were treated very differently then men in this organization. Women were called, "Jezebels" and "Babylon", and it felt to me like everything was blamed on us. Women were constantly on the prayer chair getting their supposed sins exposed and dealt with. This was terrifying to me. I hated it when my Mom was the one in the hot seat. She would become very depressed and spend hours in what was called the prayer closet, praying that God would help her give up whatever it was that was being focused on at the time. It disturbed and pained me to see her that way.

I, of course, got dealt with as well, and I will never forget the fear and horror that Mary's scowling, angry face targeted at me induced. I was only 14 when it began, maybe younger.

One vivid memory is when I was told to appear at the Whitlock's house in Lewiston, CA. As I walked from the church to the house, I pondered whether or not the visit would be a good or bad one, hoping for the best. As soon as Mary opened the door, I knew it was not good. Her face said everything, I was in for it.

Looking back it's odd to me that a 14 year old girl is summoned to the pastor's house by herself. I was brought in to their prayer closet, where I was told that my "tail power" was disrupting the peace. At 14 I didn't even really know what that meant, all I knew is that I didn't want to be there, experiencing the displeasure of the pastor and his wife.

Furthermore, I didn't feel good about being a woman. I had to wear a funny-looking uniform that the men were not required to wear (they could pretty much wear whatever they wanted), I was told that the Bible required my submission to men, and everything was blamed on me, so why would anyone want to be a woman?

Jumping ahead to 1998, Mary Whitlock approached my mother with a proposition for me. There was this man, Kay Hiramine whom she was in ministry with in Colorado Springs, and there was an opportunity for me to work with him in the ministry he was currently employed, Wagner Institute. I hadn't been involved with Mary for several years, as I had just returned from attending Bible college in Canada, and I wasn't convinced that moving to Colorado was right for me.

Through conversations and persuasion, I was convinced to move to Colorado Springs to live with the McCausland family, to help them on occasion with child care, and to work for Wagner Institute in their accounting department. This was my first exposure to Kay and Julie Hiramine.

Coming from the background that I did, I was curious at their behavior and lifestyle. They drank alcohol, smoked cigars, dined out all of the time, and vacationed frequently. I had never been exposed to this lifestyle, and didn't realize Christians lived this way.

One of the girls I grew up with, Sara Raley, had moved in with the Hiramines several months before I came to Colorado, and she was the main (unpaid) caretaker of their two children at the time, Brianna and Stacia. Having a live-in nanny freed up the Hiramines for the lavish lifestyle they desired.

I enjoyed working at Wagner Institute, and quickly adapted to the culture. I made friends easily, and when two single women were hired several months after I'd been hired, we quickly became friends. They were very curious about the connection between the Hiramines and Mary Whitlock, and asked me about her ministry. At the time, Mary was acting as an intercessor, operating out of her home in Colorado Springs. She also attended Kay's church, Vision for the Nations.

I shared a few things about Mary and her ministry with the ladies I worked with, and when I was requested to appear at Mary's house for prayer, the ladies became even more curious.

During my prayer session, I was dealt with for things in my spirit that occurred in a previous life. I was told that I had been a mean prison guard in a previous life, and that I needed to repent of the sins I had committed back then.

Back at work the next day, the ladies wanted to hear all about my ministry, so I shared it with them, never thinking twice that it would cause an eruption down the road.

Two weeks later, I was once again summoned to Mary's house for ministry. I had no clue what was to come. A good friend of mine, Peter Crain took pity on my innocence and called me prior to my appointed ministry time. He told me I needed to stop by his house first, and that he needed to warn me about what was about to take place. When I got to the Crains house, Peter informed me I was in for some serious trouble. What I had shared with the ladies at work regarding my past life ministry at Mary's had gotten spread to the wider Wagner group, and questions were being asked. Did Mary believe in past lives? Does Kay believe in past lives? I had no idea that it was considered heresy to believe in past lives, as from the time I was a little girl I was taught that our spirit comes back into new bodies continuously in order to be perfected and delivered.

If I had been smart, right then and there I would have avoided going to Mary's house that night altogether, but I was still young (23) and heavily influenced by Mary and the group.

As expected, I was dealt with VERY harshly for exposing Mary's belief in past lives, and for bringing her ministry into question. She told me I was spiritually trying to kill her. Kay and Julie were there witnessing my demise, and unhappy that their beliefs were also being questioned. My parents were on the phone as well.

Mary, Kay and Julie covered up the entire thing by claiming that they were NOT referring to past lives in my ministry session, rather they were dealing with generational issues.

It wasn't long after all of that went down that Kay and Mike McCausland left Wagner Institute, and proceeded to convince the rest of us that were still working there to leave and join them in a new ministry. I was torn and didn't know what to do. I eventually gave in to pressure from my parents as well as pressure from Mary, Kay and Julie, and resigned from Wagner Institute.

Right after I resigned, I was told that there was no place for me in Kay, Mike and Mary's new ministry, and that I needed to move back to New York. I was devastated. I had only been in Colorado for 9 months, but really enjoyed living and working there. Now I was being banished not only from Colorado, but from everything I had ever known. There was no place for me in New York either. I had nowhere to live, as Mary and my parents made it clear I was not welcome back in Conesus.

I ended up moving into a tiny two bedroom apartment with my brother and sister in Rochester, NY, and continued my college education. I have not had contact with the Hiramines or Mary since then, 16 years ago, but I know the legacy of abuse and fear continues to this day, and many young women and their families are suffering as I did.

I am writing this account in hopes that my story will help those who are still in this awful bondage of what is now known as Generations of Virtue be free, and this legacy of abuse that has lasted over 30 years will once and for all be put to an end.

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  • Oct 17, 2014

My affiliation with GOV starts years before it existence with my mother being influenced by Bishop Whitlock for many years. He was the founder of a group that has had several names but after his death Mary Whitlock, his common law wife, took over his ministry and eventually became " Visions For The Nations". This was where "Generations of Virtue" was birthed.

Now back to my connection, Mom was eventually drawn in and moved to where ever thy told her to.Including New York City in the old Bradford Hotel that was infested with rats and roaches and eventually closed. The ladies would dress in blue and white smock type uniforms and stand on the sidewalk and speak to anyone that would listen. They held meetings and people would come and either become enthralled or run! Then Mom moved to New Jersey and I am not sure where she went from there as she did not keep in touch with me. Now just to let you know Mom was a very bright woman with 2 degrees from Penn State and Harvard, and a broken heart as the love of her life, my Dad left her after a 22 yr marriage.

Eventually Mom was in Lewiston CA and contacted me as the building and property was being sold and she was coming east. My daughter was getting married and she was coming to the wedding then going to Conesus, New York. When Mom went to the wedding she came in a pink toned uniform the same as the white and blue ones. After the wedding she went to Conesus and would not let us drive her but made her own arrangements. She was to live in the building that is known as THE MISSION. Now owned by Kay Hiramine under what name I am not sure now. Over the years I would go visit Mom and sometimes my adult children wanted to connect with her as their grandmother. They would go to hug her and she would resist and block the hug. Later I was told by my mother that the hugs were 'lustful". She would let me hug her though. Mixed messages always.

Mom had little to no money so my husband and I began supporting her monthly and helping with extra expenses when the need arose. All this doesn't sound BAD does it? Well under all this was a true distortion and self loathing brought on from hours Mom spent on or in charge of the "PRAYER CHAIR".

When the main group would go back to the HOMES in CO. While a few families and several older ladies stayed at the Mission where the heat was bad and Mom was cold as I found out later due to poor heating.Mom started having bad health and I was summoned to her side. At that point Mary Whitlock started wooing me with private conversations and questions of my history with my mother. That history is a book in its self. I returned home and Timing gets a bit fuzzy here for me as my husband left for another and I was a mess as it was 43 yr marriage. I then got another call that mom was getting weaker and could I come and stay for a time. So off to NY I went.

Moms health was declining and at that time Mary Whitlock started a time of "ministry" and I was included in the sessions. Mom was accused of hating Mary and trying to harm her and lusting after Mary's position. I was later to find out that for years my mother was giving Mary Whitlock a $100. 00 a month out of the ever so small income she had from my dads SSI. No one was to know because the LORD TOLD MARY IT WAS BECAUSE MY MOM OWED IT TO HER for passed OFENSES!!!! All the time this was going on Mary had very sweet and comforting times with me and encouraged me to move there until my life was straightened out or Mom passed away. So I did stay. My first big mistake. I was hurting for many reasons and was holding on by a thread.

The difference when Mary, Kay and Julie were at the Mission and when they were in CO was almost comical. We all at the Mission got along and had fun and enjoyed our fellowship until the dreaded conference calls 2 times a week or on demand of Mary. All day long one of several people were at Mary's beck and command on the phone for hours of prayer to which the children were called to spend time in active prayer for someone for some reason during the school time or playtime.

To cut some out and get to my story as time passed I got more and more involved and was drawn in at a very vulnerable time. It ended up I was doing the financial books for the church, personal accounting and bill paying for Mary Whitlock and for GOV. Along with sewing what ever was needed at what ever time it was needed. I truly did not mind as it kept my mind off myself but then the hammer comes down! After I left my home and moved in lock stock and barrel and Mom had passed away I had to fill in where others had worked and had been told to leave the ministry. Never a good thing.

At one point I was doing all the above stated things, then was given the responsibility of the oldest Heramine daughters home schooling while they were in CO and she was on discipline. That had been the assignment of a mom who home schooled her own children while taking care of their youngest child who has downs syndrome. Such a sweetie. She also was daily on the phone with Mary and responsible for so many parts of the function of the ministry, while her three oldest under 20 year old daughters where with the Hiramines raising their children. Home schooling them and much more.

To fill you in I was in my 60's and had been semi handicapped by Lymes and Fibro and needed the use of electric scooter for any distance. The building is huge and the offices of GOV was at either end of long hallways so I had my scooter inside. but then up stairs to VFN offices and my room and sewing room. Needless to say I was exhausted and in pain at the end of the day when no one was at the Mission but worse when they all came and the demand was more.

So much more to say but can be expanded later. One thing I always had a very hard time with was when one young girl was put on the prayer chair because she was causing trouble "in the spirit" for the CHOSEN child of the Hiramines. Or directly to Mary even when they were in CO and she was in NY. It became almost daily when the Hiramines were in NY. This was emotional and discipline abuse.

When it was my time to be tested on the prayer chair I was accused of making myself indispensable and wanting power. Yet I was told to do all that I was doing. Things went down hill fast and when I thought back it started when I told Mary that I was having financial problems as my husband lost 2 of our 3 businesses and was going to divorce me. After several weeks of degradation on the prayer chair I was told I had 2 weeks to get out and no one was to help or speak to me. I had my entire belonging there on 4 floors and no money or place to go. I could be given $500.00 if I left that much worth of my belonging there as I in the spirit was demanding to be taken care of and that was not going to happen according to Mary with Kay's approval. So I packed up as much as I could gave most of everything to Salvation Army and drove to CT to stay with friends for a time. I was truly homeless and so sick and traumatized I could not mentally function.

I witnessed there children, young mothers and old woman being spiritually and emotionally abused and used in the name of the Lord. Unless you have ever come under the spell of a dynamic personality you may not understand how this works. Please don't judge those of us that were members and seek the truth that the only ones that benefited from all of this was truly Kay and Julie and the ministry of Generations of Virtue. Free help and donations to cover ALL expenses including luxury cruses and vacations with full staff and child care for their 5 children.

I hope I have given some view of the wrong that is being done as families are broken apart for the purpose of alienation and servitude to GOV and the Hiramines and will be dismissed when the time comes they are no longer needed. Please be aware.

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  • Oct 13, 2014

More disgusting Generations of Virtue reports coming in....

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Generations-of-Virtrue/Colorado/Generations-of-Virtue-Marry-Whitlock-and-Bishop-Whitock-another-look-at-behind-the-scenes-1182559

Here's another new report that just went up from Oregon about the sickos at Generations of Virtue.

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  • Apr 12, 2015

If you came home from their cult-

If you came home......

You know they’d love you, forgive you, embrace you. You’ve missed so much dear, don’t miss anymore. Your family aches for you. They’re growing and changing quickly, wishing they could share it with you. I look at the photos of you at their home and I see this illuminated, magical kid interacting with a dynamic, growing, loving family. The images are powerful, natural, radiant, and not forced.

There is a lot you’ve learned on this very long adventure you’ve been on. Even if you don’t agree, even if you felt there was plenty of good to offset any bad, some things were significantly “off”, and have been. But, in the end it doesn’t matter because you have gained so much insight, honed your skills, and traveled the world. It doesn’t matter if you’re a bit off course to the left or the right. You remained in action and never stopped moving forward. Nothing is lost. Your time to transition is here, and it’s a wonderful thing that leads even grander adventures, and contributions.

You’ve seen things most people will never experience in their lives. And, there are other missions, new missions, ways to expand on what you love about what you do, ways to have even greater support, to grow into new roles, to experience even more travel and more service, and to be a blessing to others. You have great skills on numerous fronts. They will be in demand and if it’s involving Christian mission work you desire, on any level, even more so. Every day I say a prayer for you, and your family. You have family members so innocent and trying to be so big about it all, but down deep it’s hard to understand. One day you’ll be back though, and one “I love you” and a hug, and all that confusion will vaporize. You’ll see a gigantic frozen smile, swinging legs under a chair, and a kid holding a cat and staring back at you for about a week solid, thanking God every second you’re back. Your parents have handled all this with such extraordinary dignity. They’re reserved, prayerful, private, hopeful. I’m talking rock solid hope that’s not just hope, but a new dimension and testimony of faith. They understand how these things happen and get this far. They care more about tomorrow, than yesterday.

It is important for you to know, despite what was formally viewed unfavorably, those back home that love you know you made friends. They know you helped people in need. They know your heart. They know that when you were at work you reached out to touch other’s from your own deeply seeded faith. They know that even though they didn’t condone some of the partnerships and methods, that God is always at work in your life and theirs. When you come home they’ll want to hear the stories of those you led to the Lord, of those you helped heal the broken hearts of, and of those you helped protect from the wicked and self indulgent persuasions of the world. When you come home it’ll be to open and loving arms. Not arms that want to criticize and rehash disagreements, but welcoming arms that want to hear all the news about the positive things you’ve seen and experienced these past years.

It may be tomorrow, but it may not be for some time. It may be in 5 years. Maybe 10. Convoluted ideas and twisted details may still have a hold on you. I’ve been in a different place than you, but in some ways very similar. I was so sure about where I was and what I was doing. I was positive about it. Later it unraveled because when it’s “off” it can hold us for awhile, but never forever. When I looked back, I suddenly saw what had happened with great clarity, and I saw I had hurt people, for the wrong reasons, and ultimately that hurt became my own.

When you are ready to depart from where you are there’s going to be this fear storm. Everything is so familiar. Your shelter. Your routines. Your living arrangements. Your comforts. You have friends. You feel like so many depend on you. You can’t bear the idea of letting people down. But God has a plan and there are millions more tomorrow that also need protection, guidance, a confidant, and a shepherd. And there are God fearing good Christians uniting to expand programs in exciting ways to help others. Your future is secure, opportunities even bigger lay before you, support will sweep underneath you, and it won’t be weeks or even months, and you’ll have a new found security in a new stage of life.

Come home. It’s a step forward, not a step back.

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  • Nov 7, 2014

My overview of Generations of Virtue, Kay and Julie Hiramine and Mary Whitlock, is from an outsider's viewpoint. My family was close friends with a family who was very involved with the aforementioned ministries. We lived near each other for a lot of my childhood and I developed a very deep friendship with their second oldest daughter. Their entire family was very dear to me as they were so God-centered, loving and caring to each other and their parents loved each and every one of their children. Their house was a home-away-from-home to me and my friendship with their daughter and them remained strongly intact despite my family's move accross the country. Shortly after we moved I learned that my friend and her family were moving to up-state New York to live at a Mission for the ministry I knew they were a part of. I should mention before I continue that as close as I was with this friend - we laughed, cried, prayed and grew in the Lord together - the one subject we were never permitted to discuss, per my friend, was the "secret" prayer ministry her family was involved with. In the years that followed their move to Conesus, NY our friendship started to slowly change and deteriorate. We still kept in touch and talked constantly, but there were more and more secrets on her end - more things in her life that she was not allowed to discuss.

The most drastic change occurred when she told me in tears that she had to move to Colorado to live with the Hiramine's and help in whatever way she could. She was clearly sad, even depressed but still could not elaborate as to who they really were and why she had to go. Upon her arrival there is when our friendship took a drastic change. EVERYTHING was secret, she was only allowed a half-day off once a week (I believe her day off was on a rotating schedule with other girls at the time), and her duties were so overwhelming. Throughout the following 4 years she would travel with this family on lavish vacations (as their nanny/cook/whatever they needed) and yet at the same time was admittedly spoiled materially. Now, her and I both come from very large families - I have 8 siblings, she has 9 - so lavish living was not necessarily something either of us were accustomed to. Her family most certainly always provided for her physical and material needs but after moving in with the Hiramine's, she acquired a lot of lavish and expensive possessions that she told me they bought her. I only mention that as I truly believe it is part of the manipulation process... as in "we are the ones who really love you", "look at all the wonderful things you can do and have if you stay here". As the years went on this thought pattern became very apparent in my friend.

Now fast forward to when I am 19. I went through some difficult things and sadly, found myself pregnant and single. It was one of the hardest times for me and although my friend and I hadn't been that close for the previous 2 years I had to call her with the news. It was one of the most difficult things I can remember doing when I was at that point in my life. Her response was of course shock, sadness and thankfully support for me. After our conversation she invited me to "get away" from things and meet her in Conesus, NY as she was going to be there for a time during the Summer. I was shocked at an opportunity to visit the Mission as I got the impression from the past 7 years of our friendship that a visit to either New York or Colorado where she was currently living was out of the question for me. At any rate, I jumped at the opportunity to finally see my friend and her family again. It was absolutely wonderful to see them and I honestly had a great time as I love her parents and siblings dearly. They were wondeful, loving and gracious to me as they had always been. Unfortunately, I did leave there with a few red flags in my mind. She started telling me that I would just love Colorado and would be welcomed there by the Hiramine's and that they could help me through this difficult time. I participated in a prayer session there that was extremely disturbing and my spirit did not witness to their prayer methods and general "spirit" in the room. I was not, however, present for the private "prayer chair" session that followed as I was asked to leave at that point. The living conditions were not the best for any of the families at the Mission at this time. It was an extremely old building and quite massive with huge grounds and endless halls/rooms, floors, etc..

About 3 or 4 months later my friend called me and excitedly invited me to Colorado for Thanksgiving - on the Hiramine's! It would be at the near end of my pregancy, right before I wouldn't be able to fly. I accepted and looked forward to another week with my friend. It wasn't until I arrived that I realized why I was being allowed in to all the secrets all of a sudden. You see, when I got there my friend was permitted time off each day - for the first time in years according to her - to basically spoil me all on the Hiramine's dime. She took me hiking, site-seeing, paying my admission wherever we went. Lastly, she took me to visit Mary Whitlock. She had "words of wisdom" for me, gushed over me and gave me gifts - a woman I had never met or knew about before this day. She also gave my friend a couple hundred dollars to take me shopping and spoil me. The entire time it felt very weird - like they were trying to buy my devotion to them.

The other thing I witnessed while there was that Julie, the mother of 3 girls did absolutely nothing! all childcare, laundry, homeschooling, cooking, driving kids to private violin, dance, and ballet lessons, waking with an infant in the middle of the night, etc., was completely on my friend. The only thing I witnessed Julie doing was going on numerous, daily, shopping trips and coming home with extremely expensive, high-end clothing for herself and her kids. I could not get past the fact that everyone in Conesus, NY seemed to have given up their entire lives, a portion of their finances and were willing to give up everyday comforts and luxeries to live in the middle of nowhere in a run down building, whilst the Hiramine's were living it up in a huge home in Colorado Springs. Their children were in private lessons for everything and had unlimited high-end material possessions, toys, furniture, clothing, etc.. Julie Hiramine's youngest daughter was an infant at the time and my friend had to sleep with the moniter to get up with the baby any time she stirred. My friend was very paranoid about this as she had to make sure she got to the baby before Julie heard her. She also had to get up quite frequently with I believe the 3rd oldest child who woke up many times each night I was there with night terrors. My friend's job was to make sure, no matter what, that Julie did not hear anything and to console the infant and toddler without disturbing Julie. One of the saddest things I saw in just that one week was that even though the oldest Hiramine daughter was only about 9 or 10 at the time, my friend and everyone in the family and house were unbelievably cruel and mean to her per Mary Whitlock's instructions.

Apparently, she was an evil girl and they had to "break her" from what she was "going to become" by locking her up, not speaking to her, etc.. I never witnessed this child doing anything other than crying or being extremely sad over the way everyone had to treat her. It was heartbreaking and the only explanation I was given was that Mary said so. Also, Mary had prophesied over the 2nd oldest girl and claimed she had special gifts and was the "chosen" daughter. I am not sure what she was chosen for but she was unbelievably spoiled and doted on. We had to drop her off to Mary's for her special one on one play time - that only she could have - Mary had an upstairs loft-like room set up like a complete dream room for any little girl. Endless books, American Girl dolls, doll furniture and just way too many toys, games, puzzles etc. to remember. My friend informed me that this child was special and chosen and that Mary did this all for her and the oldest girl was never allowed to go there to play. On the last day there my friend told me that they could offer me a place to stay, help me get a job and basically anything I needed if I would stay and be a part of their ministry. I was polite and said I would think about it.

After getting home I told my friend that although I was grateful for the offer, I already had a home and my family was supportive thus I wouldn't be moving. This was basically the end of our friendship, she would only take my calls about twice a year after that and was not able to come to my wedding two years later with no reason why. I even offered to pay her way, etc.. I truly believe that the leaders involved with this ministry were confident that I was in an impressionable enough condition that I would easily be manipulated and coerced into joining. When they found out I did not fall for it I became an instant threat to them based on what I had witnessed. The years that followed my visit I questioned her on a few things that I had observed and that was basically it. One day she answered the phone and when she realized it was me said she could not talk and to please never call her again.

I reached out to her over the next year or so through letters, e-mails and texts and never got a reply or explanation of any kind. I will never stop praying for my friend, her sisters, and other girls trapped in this ministry. For any others who read this and have a child, sibling or friend entrenched in this ministry, please be encouraged that God is in control and is the God of the impossible. A few years ago the rest of my friend's family reached out to inform me that they were out and about the situation with their 3 daughters. As sad as the latter news was I was so encouraged and amazed at the wonder working power of God. You see, my mom and I had definitely had the impression that this ministry was very cult-like and had been praying for over 10 years that this family's hearts and minds and eyes would be opened and they would see the truth. The fact that her parents were out - a family that had been involved in the ministry before my friend was even born - had been delivered has just burned inside of me a passion, hope and reminder that even when we think God's forgotten, He hasn't! My prayer is that each and every lie is exposed and every girl is reunited with their families so that true healing can begin to take place and relationships can be restored.

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  • Dec 29, 2014

Hiramine and Generations of Virtue are terrible- from grieving family

As a consumer who has purchased product, attended seminars, workshops, and supported Generations of Virtue, I have been deceived and would like for the public to know who and what they are supporting when donating to or purchasing product from Generations of Virtue, Vision for the Nations, J127 Travel, and/or Kay and Julie Hiramine.

My state organization contracted with Julie Hiramine of Generations of Virtue to speak at our state convention. She and her team showed up with all their goods to sell, and Julie spoke at several sessions. They are so well buttoned up that no one would ever guess that the truth of their operation is a contradiction to their presentation and goods they sell. My caution to any parent with children, teens, or young adults is do not be deceived by the sugar coating on the outside. It will be more costly than you would ever want to pay.

Any product purchases that are made helps to further the abuse that is occurring daily inside this group. Multiple witnesses stretching over decades of time can verify this abuse. Some witnesses won’t speak out for fear of retaliation. This is a valid fear as Kay and Julie have retaliated against my family for speaking the truth and exposing lies. Many have given towards this organization; however, if you feel pressured or have the desire to give funds to this organization, please know that who they claim to be is not who they really are. If you ask the leadership or current brainwashed members, you will get the answer the leadership needs the public to have in order to maintain their cover. If you ask former members you will learn the truth.

EMPLOYMENT/LABOR

Personally, I have heard Julie speak and have listened to various recordings by her. It seemed to me like sound practical biblical principles. I even sat down with her and asked her how she came up with her information, how on earth she finds time to raise five girls, homeschool, be a helpmate to Kay, write books, and speak, etc. She told me four homeschooled young ladies help her. I envisioned some young ladies coming for several hours a week to assist in different tasks; I was very mistaken.

What I later learned, was these young ladies, as young as 15, have worked seven days a week for up to 10-15 years, and live with Kay and Julie. These young ladies do not just help.they actually do the homeschooling, cooking, cleaning, laundry, organizing, shopping, etc. In order to maintain the young girls working, Kay and Julie convince them that if they stop serving they will reject their destiny and forfeit the kingdom. Their payment is the honor and privilege of serving Kay and Julie.

If these young ladies have been properly compensated, where are the W2s or 1099s? Shouldn’t minors/adult humans working 7 days a week without a break, be entitled to structured, legal, state and federal employment guidelines? Department of Labor should be concerned about the long hours, for years, with no pay. I understand how people can donate time to a ministry, but the level of work and control Kay and Julie have over these young ladies is beyond volunteer status. They are servant slaves/indebted servants. Their technique of brainwashing is recognized as spiritual rape. They enter into areas of their mind and convince the girls that they come from abusive homes and in fact are indebted to Kay and Julie for rescuing them from a falsely created childhood.

Finances are raised for the operating of their non-profit organizations and churches; yet, the young women with corporate titles work for free. The everyday work and businesses are operated by these young ladies while the Hiramines travel, live a lavish lifestyle, develop publicity for their book brands, and market their ministry to young people (especially girls). All this is done with donations, sales from books, income from speaking engagements, and donor capital. The members are not allowed to get regular jobs outside of the organization because the group is relocated with little to no notice across state and international lines. It also would be difficult to maintain control if they were allowed to work outside of the organization. It doesn’t seem right that they raise donor capital to finance staff and operations for a non-profit business/ministry; yet do not pay staff that works seven days a week. These young people are quite literally enslaved to serve Kay and Julie and have been for years and even decades. These young ladies are on call 24/7, provide all services for free, have no structured breaks, no structured vacation, no overtime compensation, and have unsafe and unregulated working conditions. Are Kay and Julie adhering to state and federal employment guidelines?

Julie Hiramine runs a program for young people that is 6-8 weeks long and costs the teen $2,495 + airfare to participate. Julie also offers another program 8-10 weeks long that costs $5,699 + airfare. The second program is held at the Mission in Conesus, NY. As part of the fee to the program they offer at the mission, the teen or young adult will work to renovate a building with harmful, health threatening conditions and will participate in bible studies and a trip to NYC in order to justify the cost. This facility contains dangerous lead, asbestos, and mercury. Several of the workers that have resided at the mission for a short period of time have contracted respiratory illnesses. While the area where Kay and Julie live is clean and renovated, the area where workers live should be a department of health and labor concern. This money runs through a non-profit status organization and helps to build the personal assets of Kay and Julie.

My daughter has worked for Kay and Julie Hiramine for almost five years. She is required to be available 24/7. Some Sundays she is given time off to attend to her personal life and needs, but when called, she must answer. The first few years when she wanted to return home, it was rebuked as family idolatry. She was told by leadership to either serve God or serve family. She went from never missing family events (reunions, holidays, birthdays, weddings and baptisms) to never attending these events, because now all of sudden God has told her not to, and serving God requires giving up family. Mary Whitlock, Kay’s spiritual mother, had prophesied and declared that Kay and Julie have a special message and calling that no one else has, and members are required to serve Kay and Julie. This is seen as a privilege and service to God. In order to show true devotion, all energy, time, and money must be used to assist and promote Kay and Julie and to separate members from their family.

In light of our concern, we went to communicate as to the lack of contact our daughter and others have with their families. She said, “When one of you calls, I look at my phone and God tells me not to answer it”. We were shocked by her distorted view of God and family. She believed cutting family off was part of her way to show devotion to God. She stated at one point that if her younger sister was dying of cancer and only had a month to live, she would not come to see her before she died. This way of thinking is all in order to show her devotion to God. This broke my heart, as I know during her entire childhood how much she loved her little sister.

BOOKS, GOODS, and SERVICES

GOV carries a variety of products to sell to parents and teens. They have done an excellent job pulling in various authors and selling their product along with GOV books in order to establish a cover for the inner workings of this so called ministry. They have also positioned themselves to impress Christian public figures in order to name drop so that the general public will see them as credible. For example, on the cover of Julie Hiramine’s book, Guardians of Purity, one will see a quote from Jim Daly, President of Focus on the Family (FOF). Upon searching the FOF bookstore online and speaking with an FOF employee over the phone, I discovered that while they sell the book, FOF does not recommend this book. There are a few slips where Julie lets her true doctrine out. Could it be that the content does not quite meet FOF Christian doctrine standard? The actual doctrine of VFN/GOV does not line up at all with FOF; however, Kay and Julie use the public figures and FOF to establish themselves as having the same beliefs.

When you look at the GOV home page and watch the video How We Got Started, Julie states that the ministry was started on her knees. What she won’t tell you is that this ministry/cult was someone else’s idea and dream that she stole. She met with the lady who had the original idea for this ministry and received all the details of the lady’s dream. She then started the ministry without the lady’s permission and refused to return the calls from the original founder. Legal action was not pursued, but the deceit and theft does not go unnoticed.

Of the books that Julie recommends in her speaking that are on the GOV website, you will NOT find the three most foundational and important books to the Hiramine family and all of their organizations. Shouldn’t these vital books be published, promoted, and sold by the Hiramines? These books were authored by Kay’s spiritual mother, Mary Whitlock, and give great insight into the inner workings of GOV/VFN. Laying the Ax to the Root and Transforming Prayer, along with The Whitlock Guide to Spiritual Terms are used by Kay and Julie to bring themselves into ultimate authority over their children and all members and use God’s word with a wicked, deceitful twist appealing to the girls desires to please God and serve Him. Techniques used are described as spiritual rape. Why aren’t the teachings they live by; which are written in these books, being offered for sale, promoted by them, or taught to people on the outside? The truth is, they spend an enormous amount of time, energy, and money keeping the public from this information.

From the books and from former members, one learns that the primary message taught within the group is that of iniquity. On a daily basis, behavior is identified and one’s iniquity must be dealt with in the group. There is a constant threat that one’s iniquity is trying to destroy one of the leaders or purposely make trouble for the leaders. One’s iniquity can do this even if you are on the other side of the world, because the spirit and frequencies of iniquity do not know time or space. Iniquity can manifest in something like sneezing, coughing, or flipping one’s hair. Even if you do nothing physically, the leaders may sense this about you in the spiritual realm and you will be dealt with and punished. Very young children are required to give up their iniquity and get on the prayer chair. The punishment most often requires some length of solitary confinement. Days or months are spent in isolation until acknowledgement of this fabricated iniquity is achieved with complete reverence and compliance with the leadership: Mary, Kay, and Julie.

SPEAKING/SEMINARS:

Julie and Kay Hiramine travel around the world teaching about parenting and purity. They haven’t once mentioned the life changing technique of parenting they use on their own children. This technique is known as the prayer chair. They use guilt, shame, and fear to bring complete obedience and submission to the anointed authority, Kay and Julie Hiramine. The time on the prayer chair often includes praying, speaking in tongues, prophesying, and travailing (wailing, screaming, vomiting, punching, jumping, etc.).

After the travailing their daughters or members sit in the chair and are told what others saw or sensed about them in the spiritual realm. This is viewed as prophesy. All the visions and experiences people see about the adult, teen, or their daughter are then submitted to Mary Whitlock who in turn gives the revelation of what this means about them. The leadership teaches the prayer group is absolutely accurate and correct and so a member is pressured to agree and confess to whatever they say about you on prayer.

No matter how bizarre or inaccurate the visions, accusations, and statements may be, their daughters and members are required to accept them as truth or further abuse will be implemented until one concedes and yields to the authority: Mary, Kay, and Julie.

One member recalls these young girls being called temple prostitutes by the leadership. Accusations often include: incest, desire for adultery, adultery, past life murder, sexual abuse, bestiality, past life debt owed, attempted murder of a sister or parent, etc.

Even for the Hiramine’s own young daughters, there is a strong focus on imagined sexual sin. Shocking to me was to hear of the punishment used to address iniquity, which is solitary confinement. When their oldest daughter was twelve and the family was living in Colorado Springs, CO, Kay and Julie sent their daughter to be confined to a room at the Mission in Conesus, NY for over three months. One of the cult members living at The Mission recalls that she would bring the Hiramine daughter her food and leave it at her door, as she was not allowed to speak to her. There was also a young intern who was working at the Mission at the time and asked why the young daughter wasn’t allowed to come out. Putting a twelve year old in confinement, for months, several states away is an extreme discipline the Hiramines use and embrace for their family, and it certainly seems like one they should share and promote in their parenting seminars, but of course they do not.

The teaching that enables the leadership to use interpretation/prophesy to their advantage and create whatever scenario is necessary to instill fear and control behavior is reincarnation. With the Hiramine daughters, Mary Whitlock prophesied and it was believed that in their former life the first-born Hiramine daughter had killed their second-born daughter. The second born daughter did not want to return to earth, but had to in order to avenge her death. Mary’s role throughout her life has been to protect the second born from her older sister. Her older sister was often told that she was trying to kill her younger sister. This declaration early in their life established a regular place of iniquity for the leadership/parents to abuse the oldest daughter, including the foregoing confinement at the Mission.

There are many of these types of reincarnation examples including: women being told they were a priestess of Molech and sacrificed children; a woman being told she killed babies in China in her former life; people being from the future here with us now. Members were also told who they were in their former life which would explain their lustful, doomed to fail fate, etc.

They teach that God is a loving Father who does not subject anyone to eternal damnation. As humans we live many lives, many times on earth, until perfection is reached and one can enter into the Kingdom of God. Each time you die, you go to another “classroom” or level of Heaven. You get sent back to Earth to learn more and become more like Jesus until you’ve reached perfection. This group, including the leaders, Kay and Julie, believe that their particular group has been together for many life cycles.

The questions should be asked: from where does all the money for their lavish travel come? Is the staff being treated according to state and federal employment guidelines? Why has Kay opened so many non-profit organizations and businesses? Are they viable, or just a means of maintaining a cover and violating human rights? Why are Kay and Julie Hiramine promoting themselves as people they are not? Wouldn’t ministry leaders want all those working for them to have biblical relationships with family and friends? Why the public appearance of transparency, then isolation and abuse in private? Families have lost their beautiful daughters to this organization, and these questions need to be addressed.

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  • Oct 23, 2014

Don't put your trust in people. Keep your heart close to God. It could ruin your life. My next update.

This is another update on my experience with Bishop Whitlock and Mary Whitlock: After I had my little girl one of the ladies came in my room a few days later and asked me if I had O type blood. I told her yes. She said to lay her in the indirect sun because she was slightly yellow. Never explained that I should get some kind of shot that would keep my next child safe. So a year later I had a son while we were visiting the Texas church. After I had him, one day later I noticed that he was very yellow and and flinching his head and screaming. So I called everyone in the church for help. I took him to the hospital and they did 6 blood exchanges and from that point on to this day Peter has had Cerbral Palsy. He had other complications.

This all was caused by me not having a shot after I had Priscilla. I have to live with this my whole life. Others can get free of the cult and move on and life goes on. But not me! I have to know that my son is damaged for a life time. Although Peter is the most amazing artist and such an amazing young man. I wish everyone could meet him. Bishop Whitlock was very angry with us for going to the hospital. He said when I called him that God said Peter swallowed something and if I do go to the hospital only let them do exrays. Well, I'm glad I took him. They saved his life. He has touch so many people in his life. I will spend my whole life loving and taking care of him, I love him so much. So another word from God and it was wrong. Bishop Whitlock was out of control with how high he thought he was with God. His problem was he believed it. They were so frustrated with me at this point.

My next child died in my womb at 9 months. So here I am not feeling any movement from the child in me and have to wait to go into labor. I told them that I wasn't feeling anything. They pretty much ignored this. I had the baby and he was gone. We buried him in Conesus N.Y.. I lost so much blood that I could not even sit up. I got very ill and almost died. I was shunned like you will never believe. I never recovered inside from this. It was the worse day of my life. From that point on I was told that killed my baby. That in the spirit I was a baby killer. This was brought out in meetings.

This was more than just humiliating... I have no words for the damage that did. I love children and they were the BABY KILLERS! After I got out I researched all that I went thru and went over everything with doctors. I got my answeres. I needed this shot after each birth. They didn't let us go to doctors and if we leaned in that direction we were out of the will of God. People who did that never lasted. You just die or let your children die. Pretty messed up. I have a little christmas bulb that says Michael Matthew on it and put it out every year so we don't forget him. More happenen during this time. It's just not enough room on this page to write it all. These were the highlights.

My last child was ok because she was my blood type. I still did not know why Peter was damaged or Michael Matthew died. So I had one more child... So much more happened. We are all struggleing with this story, because there are so many details. The little things that were said inbetween. The shunning, the prayer closet dealings, feeling devistated over loosing my child, everyone mad at you. My husband was going along with the shunning. He basically was told I was a baby killer. He believed it. My regret at this point is that I didn't tell them I didn't agree and was leaving. I still had not money and nowhere to turn. I felt stuck. That is why I'm telling this to free others from feeling stuck.

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AUTHOR: Karen Sheree - ()

SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 14, 2014

I started my writings yesterday: I want to mention my daughter. Out of all the children who were raised in this cult, she was one of the hardest hit. She is 41 years old now. After she read what I wrote yesterday she called me sobbing. My words made her remember and realize what I went through. She said to me tonight that she was proud of me for stepping out and finally telling our story. She said, "mom don't stop telling our story". She couldn't even stop crying over the phone. I believe that the lord was healing a very big wound. She said that she felt like I was protecting her by saying how wrong this was. She was hurt deeply by the Bro. B and Mary years. By me coming forward now is like making up for the weakness I displayed during those years we were deceived.

Back in 1986 we were having meetings in Chickasha Oklahoma. A lot of people came to this weeks meetings. A young man that I had met once before, came from New York City and was there as well. Bro. B. in the middle of one of his teachings, came forth with some news about me and that young man. He announced that God had told him that this person and me should be together and get married.... IN TWO DAYS!!! Well, this person and I never talked between that day and the day we were to be married. ( we did meet in New York months before) I went to Bro. B. and said to him that I hadn't talked to him yet. Bro. B. said, "you have the rest of your life to talk"... I left his office feeling weird. Every girl wants a guy to ask her to marry him?? The point here was they told you what God said, and you did it. No questions asked. If you didn't do it, you were going against the will of God. Who wants to do that.

I was a single mom and this meant that this strange man was coming into our home. I wanted to meet someone and get married, but not like this. I trusted Bro. B.and this person and I were married in two days just like he said. This was the beginning of my new level of nightmares.

Through this marriage I had 4 home births without any medical help. We were told to only have your husband and me in the room. I can't tell you how scary this was for me, because I had a daughter 13 years before as a C-section and when I had her I had complications which i would have died if I would have not been in a hospital. My husband knew nothing at all about women or childbirth, like I said he was new in our fellowship and right off the streets of New York City. Now married to me and about to give birth to a child. They told us to trust God rather than man. So going to the hospital was trusting in man??? To me, and sitting where I sat in this group, i saw that men were held to a higher esteem than women. My new husband seemed to jump on that idea. Before I write about that birth, for the next 4 years I had 4 births two girls, two boys. My son Peter has cerebral palsy, my other son Michael Matthew died at a full term birth. He is buried at the Mission.

When I had my first daughter with this marriage, I went into labor and I just didn't seem to be making progress after a few days of labor. This made Bro. B and Mary very angry. This is what happened with my first daughter years ago. So I was very scared with no doctor or midwife or hospital. The evening of the second day Bro. B. came into my room with Mary and said, "If you don't have this baby by midnight God is going to take the baby. Well, I labored all night and at about 5 or 6 in the morning I started pushing. I pushed for 3 hours and out came our angel. Almost 10 pounds! So envision this... my husband is mad at me because i couldn't hurry and have this baby and Bro. B. was mad at me. To say the least Mary was very mad at me. So God didn't take the baby at midnight... Hmmmmmm. Well, a week later Mary came to me and said that God did take the baby and it was a boy, but replaced the baby in my womb with a girl. It was my loss she said. Wow!!! This was as false as you get. Years later after most of us one at a time got away from her, I asked a very close person to Mary why she said this. It was obviously false information. This person replied to me, " Mary said that if she didn't think of something quick it would have made Bro. B. look like a false Prophet"...Mary was also a false prophetess..How many other things did they out and out lie about... I had been duped!!!

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  • Oct 23, 2014

Update on my story about what happened to me

This is another update on my experience with Bishop Whitlock and Mary Whitlock: After I had my little girl one of the ladies came in my room a few days later and asked me if I had O type blood. I told her yes. She said to lay her in the indirect sun because she was slightly yellow. Never explained that I should get some kind of shot that would keep my next child safe. So a year later I had a son while we were visiting the Texas church. After I had him, one day later I noticed that he was very yellow and and flinching his head and screaming. So I called everyone in the church for help. I took him to the hospital and they did 6 blood exchanges and from that point on to this day Peter has had Cerbral Palsy. He had other complications.

This all was caused by me not having a shot after I had Priscilla. I have to live with this my whole life. Others can get free of the cult and move on and life goes on. But not me! I have to know that my son is damaged for a life time. Although Peter is the most amazing artist and such an amazing young man. I wish everyone could meet him. Bishop Whitlock was very angry with us for going to the hospital. He said when I called him that God said Peter swallowed something and if I do go to the hospital only let them do exrays. Well, I'm glad I took him. They saved his life. He has touch so many people in his life. I will spend my whole life loving and taking care of him, I love him so much. So another word from God and it was wrong. Bishop Whitlock was out of control with how high he thought he was with God. His problem was he believed it. They were so frustrated with me at this point.

My next child died in my womb at 9 months. So here I am not feeling any movement from the child in me and have to wait to go into labor. I told them that I wasn't feeling anything. They pretty much ignored this. I had the baby and he was gone. We buried him in Conesus N.Y.. I lost so much blood that I could not even sit up. I got very ill and almost died. I was shunned like you will never believe. I never recovered inside from this. It was the worse day of my life. From that point on I was told that killed my baby. That in the spirit I was a baby killer. This was brought out in meetings.

This was more than just humiliating... I have no words for the damage that did. I love children and they were the BABY KILLERS! After I got out I researched all that I went thru and went over everything with doctors. I got my answeres. I needed this shot after each birth. They didn't let us go to doctors and if we leaned in that direction we were out of the will of God. People who did that never lasted. You just die or let your children die. Pretty messed up. I have a little christmas bulb that says Michael Matthew on it and put it out every year so we don't forget him. More happenen during this time. It's just not enough room on this page to write it all. These were the highlights.

My last child was ok because she was my blood type. I still did not know why Peter was damaged or Michael Matthew died. So I had one more child... So much more happened. We are all struggleing with this story, because there are so many details. The little things that were said inbetween. The shunning, the prayer closet dealings, feeling devistated over loosing my child, everyone mad at you. My husband was going along with the shunning. He basically was told I was a baby killer. He believed it. My regret at this point is that I didn't tell them I didn't agree and was leaving. I still had not money and nowhere to turn. I felt stuck. That is why I'm telling this to free others from feeling stuck.

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