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Spencer Wetherall Restorations Reviews
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Oct 14, 2015
Spencer wetherall, longmont, colorado 80501, list classic camaros and parts on e-bay, as bear123jetski, he also goes by, spencer wetherall, wetherall restorations, time machine camaros.
I bid on a 1969 chevrolet ss 396 camaro, spencer wetherall E-bay seller: bear123jetski), listed on e-bay, 16/june/2015
His ad:
1) guaranteed clear colorado title
2) stated - camaro did not have the original motor, but, had a date correct motor For this 1969 camaro), that was re-buildable.
I was bidding on the car, when the price reached $15,000.00, the reserve went off. I remained high bidder, at $15,500.00.
After a couple hours No one bid above me). Spencer wetherall contacted me, saying, he would sell me the car, for $20,000, but, the transaction would have to be offline from e-bay and my bank would need to send his bank, a wire transfer. I ask if the camaro had a hood He did not have one listed), he said he had one, he would let go with the car, being i was paying full price. I had my bank Capital one, shreveport, louisiana) send mr. Wetherall's bank, a wire transfer for $20k, 16/june/2015.
The next day June 17), mr. Wetherall contacted me, demanding, i allow him to restore the camaro, i needed to send him $50,000.00, right then. Something did not seem right. I refused his offer.
I told him i would arrive, with a trailer, to pick up the car, june 28. He tells me, i could not pick up the camaro, no earlier than, july 16, as he had other commitments and no one would be in his shop, in longmont, colorado.
June 26 I was enroute to colorado), i called mr. Wetherall, advising him, i would arrive his shop, longmont, colorado, june 28, to pick up the camaro. He had several excuses, for me not being able to pick up the car, on june 28.
June 28, i and a friend arrived his shop Longmont, colo), loaded the car. I requested the title, he said he did not have, would send within 10-14 days. I inspected the 396 engine block, it was dated 1967, not date correct for the 1969 camaro. The heads Peanut model) dated 1966, were not correct size, they were not date correct to the engine block, or the 1969 camaro. I told mr. Wetherall, his e-bay ad stated, the engine was date correct, for the camaro. He said take it or leave it. I ask him for the hood, he told me, he did not have a hood. Long story short, he told me, i misunderstood him and this was my problem, not his. Being i was 1200 miles from home and him having the title, i decided, i would leave with the car and remain professional.
My observation of mr. Wetherall's shop -- very small, junky, dirty, un-organized. There was only (1) other person in the shop Did not seem to be a mechanic), there when i arrived. Neither of them, was anywhere close to being professional. Mr. Wetherall told me on the phone several times, he had 8 professional people working on cars.
There were (5) camaros Belonging to customers), supposedly under restoration, were no where close, to being 1st class, frame off rotisserie, nut/bolt restorations, with all new components, as he claimed. Body prep and paint quality was extremely poor quality, parts/components, being used, were used and/or, re-built and were being passed off as new.
After being home a few days, i had the engine disassembled. (1) rod journal on the crankshaft, was totally damaged, not repairable. (1) head was cracked, not repairable. I called mr. Wetherall, i told him, he outright lied In his ad on e-bay), as the engine was not fully re-buildable, due to the spun rod journal and cracked head plus, the engine was not date correct. He told me that was my problem, not his. I also requested the title, he hung up the phone.
As of this report, 15/oct/2015, it has been 122 days June 16, i paid for the car), mr. Wetherall, has not supplied the title, nor, has he reimbursed me for the defective engine components.
Mr. Wetherall, will not return phone calls, nor, answer e-mails, promptly and professionally. Whenever i am able to get him on the phone From another number he does not recognize on his caller id), he always has another excuse, for not sending the title.
Mr. Wetherall, conducts business through the following names: spencer wetherall, bear123jetski E-bay seller name), wetherall restorations, time machine camaros.
If you would like to at anytime go look at this Incredible Body of this “Rare Camaro”
His House address is:
Dean W Baker
5222 South Lakeshore Drive
Shreveport Louisiana 71109
Funny how on ebay...I am 100 Percent on my “Car Sales for over 13 Years” and this guy says this...
My Add on ebay for this Camaro had 24 Pictures and a Ton of Information...
I can Show anyone the e-bay Add...Plus I had the Camaro on my TV Show and talked all about the Camaro on the Show and showed all the Parts that were with the Camaro...
I sent Dean Baker the TV Show also before he bought this Camaro so there could be No Confusion.
I have a lot of Repeat Customers. A Happy Customer will Buy from you again....That's a Fact.
My ebay add said that “I Don't have the Title Yet”, But I would “Guarantee a Title”.
The Title was misplaced by the guy I got the Camaro from. He sold it to me with a Bill of Sale.
He had Owned the Camaro 20 Years and had moved 3 times and misplaced the title.
I waited for him to try and find the title. I then turned the paper work in to get the Title in my name.
As soon as the Title was in my name, I then sent the Title on this Camaro to Dean Baker.
Dean Baker “Does Have the Title” and I made a Copy of the Title in case it got lost when I sent it.
I can show anyone the Copy of the Title. I can show anyone the “ebay add” and the TV Show on this Camaro to Prove that Dean Baker is “Wrong”....
Also on the TV Show you can see the High-End Restoration work on the Camaros I am building in the back ground and how “Clean and Organized my Shop is.
Call my Cell and I will “Immediately” send you Pictures on my Phone to Your Phone or to your Email address of the Camaros in the Shop. You will see the Craftsmanship and Quality of my Builds and see how Clean and Organized my Shop is...
Again it is that Easy to Prove what I am Saying is True...And that he is “Wrong”...
I can also show you all the Trophies in my Shop that the Restored Camaros have Won.
He also said he met my Reserve on E-bay and then I called him. How could I get his Phone Number to call him??? ebay “Doesn’t” send someones “Phone Number” once they Hit the Reserve Price....
He Called me and said “What will it take to Buy this Camaro now and Stop the Auction” I said $20k
I then emailed him the TV Show I that was Filmed a week earlier on this Camaro. The TV Show also showed when I picked up the Camaro from the Owner's House and did an Interview with the owner on this Rare Camaro.....Dean Baker then said... Okay send me your Wire Information and then he wired me the $20,000.00 on the Camaro.
I then Stopped the Auction
He called me the next day and said he didn’t know anyone who could do the Rotisserie Restoration work on this Camaro.....He saw from my TV Show that I do “ Frame Off Rotisserie Restorations ” and asked me to do a Contract for him to Restore this Camaro...
I told him since he bought the Camaro from me...I would give him a Better Deal to do a “ Frame off Rotisserie Restoration “and I would find a Correct Dated 1969 396/375 hp 4 Bolt Main Motor for the Build.
The Contracted stated $50,000.00 to do the Frame Off Restoration work and $20,000 down to start the work....I still have the Contract I sent him to Prove this all happened...It was 20K to Start Not 50k like he said...And how could I Force anyone into a Contract like he Says???
Call around for Pricing...That is Cheap to do a High-End Frame Off Rotisserie Restoration...
If anyone is reading this Now... Call any Shop.... they will Quote you a lot Higher Price to do the same work I was going to do. I gave him a Deal on the Restoration because he bought the Camaro from me.
After he Agreed to the Contract he said he would Wire me $20,000.00 and I would Start the Build. I waited and did not get a Wire to start the work. He then called me a day latter and said I will be there tomorrow to pick up the Camaro and that my “Friends would have Guns on them” and not to worry because they are off duty Police Officers....I thought that was a “odd thing to say”???
I asked him why he didn’t want me to do the work? Dean Baker said a New Shop was opening up were he lived and they would do the work a lot Cheaper.....$30,000.......Now I thank God we never did the Restoration work for him...
He asked to pick up the Camaro the next day because his Police Officer friends had the weekend off.
I told him the parts were in storage and we were not working on the weekend.
I did tell him the Shop would be Closed for the week of July 4th for the Holidays
This Camaro was taken down to a Bare Shell...”Just like the e-bay add said and all the Pictures showed the Camaro all apart.
It Was a Builder Car...It was a Incredible Body 1969 SS 396-375hp with a Rare Factory BE Coded 410 Posi Rear-end.
We then had to Box Everything up for him to take with him which took sometime to get it all ready.
We were Filming for the TV Show Monday & Tuesday and I told him he could get the Camaro on Wednesday if he was all of a sudden in such a big hurry to get this Camaro picked up.
Dean Baker also said in this Report.....”I advising him, i would arrive his shop, longmont, colorado, june 28, to pick up the camaro. He had several excuses, for me not being able to pick up the car, on june 28.
June 28, i and a friend arrived his shop Longmont, colo)”,
If this was True....How did I have everything Boxed up and Ready for him to pick up on June 28th???
He also states...I didn't give him the Title at the Shop....He knew about the Delay with the Title because he sent me the “Bill of Sale from his State” for this Camaro.
He said he wanted the Bill of Sale in-case he got pulled over on the way home since he wouldn't have the Title. That Proves he knew I didn't have the title yet.
I do have Copies of his “Bill of Sale from his State” to show anybody that he had it the day he picked up the Camaro
I am Very Easy to get along with and Never Reacted the way he said I did when he got to my shop...
We even helped him load up all all the parts and the Camaro...He had no Police Friends with him...
He also talked about my Shop...We Build 6 Camaros at a time...There is four of us working at the shop he was at...The Paint & Body Shop is at another location...The Body Shop has to be Separate because of dust...
You can also see how Nice and Clean and Organized my Shop is on the TV Show since he said my Shop was Dirty, and UN-Organized also.
I have Pictures of my Camaros at the Body Shop with the other Employees if anybody needs to see that also. Dean Baker also says...” my Camaros were no where close, to being 1st class, frame off rotisserie, nut/bolt restorations, with all new components, as he claimed. Body prep and paint quality was extremely poor quality, parts/components, being used, were used”.....
Judges First look at Paint and Body at a Car Show...Then Everything else...I have a Wall of Trophies of the Quality of my Restoration Workmanship
I have included Two Interviews “Hot Rod TV”and Super Chevy TV did with me.
Look at my Camaros on Both TV Shows and you can be the Judge of my Restoration Work.
It is as easy as that...Plus I can show you the First Place Trophies from the Car Shows...And all the Magazines they were in....
My Name, Camaros and Documents are in in John Hoopers 1969 Camaro Reference Book...and Jerry MacNeish Z28/ SS396 Fact Book....Plus 98 Percent of the People that Fly in to my Shop...”Buy” One of my Camaros because of the Quality of my Restoration Work...That's why I love to here when a New Customer says he is going to Fly In...Then I know it's a “Done Deal”... Plus I have a lot of Repeat Customers...Because they Love my Camaros...:)
“Hot Rod TV” did a 30 minute Interview with me and a Black & Gold 1969 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show.... Go 13 Minutes into it for the Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Yvs36hZ_w
“Super Chevy TV Show” did a Interview with me and a Orange and Black 1970 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show. Go 18 Minute's into it for the Interview.
Funny how on E-bay...I am 100 Percent on my Car Sales over 13 Years...
My Add on E-bay for this Camaro had 24 Pictures and a Ton of Information in the Add...I can Show anyone the Add...Plus I had the Camaro on my TV Show and talked all about the Camaro on the Show and showed all the Parts that were with the Camaro...
I sent him the TV Show also before he bought the Camaro so there could be no Confession.
I have a lot of Repeat Customers. A Happy Customer will Buy from you again.
My E-bay add said that I Don't have the Title Yet, But I would Guaranty a Title.
The Title was miss placed by the guy I got the Camaro from so he sold it to me with a Bill of Sale
He had Owned the Camaro 20 Years and had moved 3 times in the 20 years.
I waited for him to try and find it and then turned the paper work in to get the Title in my name.
As soon as the Title was in my Name I sent him the Title on this Camaro. He Does Have the Title.
I can show anyone the Copy of the Title, I can show anyone the E-bay add and the TV Show on this Camaro to Prove he is Wrong and you can see the High-end Restoration work on the Camaros in the back ground...I can also show you all the Trophies in my shop that the Restored Camaros have Won.
He also said he met my Reserve on E-bay and then I called him. How could I get his Phone Number to call him??? E-bay “Does Not” send someones “Phone Number” once they Hit the Reserve Price....
He Called me and said “What will it take to Buy this Camaro Now and Stop the Auction” I said $20k
He then wired me the $20,000.00 on the Camaro.
He called me the next day and said he didn’t know anyone who could do the Restoration on the Camaro.....He saw from my TV Show that I do Full Frame Off Restorations and asked me to do a Contract for him to Restore this Camaro...
I told him since he bought the Camaro From me...I would give him a Better Deal to do a Total Frame off Restoration and find a Correct 1969 Dated 396-375 hp 4 Bolt Main Motor.
The Contracted stated $50,000.00 to do the Restoration work...I still have the Contract I sent him.
How could I Force anyone into a Contract like he Says???
If anyone is reading this Now... Call any Shop.... they will Quote you a lot Higher Price to do the same work I was going to do. So I gave him a Deal on the Restoration Because he bought the Camaro...
After he Agreed to the Contract he said he would Wire me the Money...I waited and did not get a wire to start the work. He then called me a day latter and said I will be there tomorrow to pick up the Camaro and that my friends would have guns on them and not to worry because they are off duty Police Officers....I thought that was Weird of him to say???
I asked him why he didn’t want me to do the work? He said a New Shop was opening up were he lived and they would do the work a lot Cheaper.....Now I thank God we never did the Restoration for him...
He asked to pick up the Camaro the next day because his Police Officer friends had the weekend off.
I told him the parts were in storage and we were not working on the weekend.
I did tell him the Shop would be Closed for the week of July 4th for the Holidays
This Camaro was taken down to a Bare Shell...”Just like the E-bay add said and all the Pictures showed the Camaro all apart. It Was a Builder Car...It was a Incredible Body 1969 SS 396-375hp Factory 410 Posi
We then had to Box Everything up for him to take with him. Which took some time for us to Box up.
We were Filming for the TV Show Monday & Tuesday and I told him he could get the Camaro on Wednesday...
He also said in this Report.....”I advising him, i would arrive his shop, longmont, colorado, june 28, to pick up the camaro. He had several excuses, for me not being able to pick up the car, on june 28.
June 28, i and a friend arrived his shop Longmont, colo)”,
If this was True....How did I have everything Boxed and Ready for him to pick up on June 28th???
He also states...I didn't give him the Title at the Shop....He knew about the Delay with the Title because he sent me the “Bill of Sale" from his State” for this Camaro. He wanted me to fill them out and sign them before he got to my Shop.
He said he wanted the Bill of Sale in-case he got pulled over on the way home since he wouldn't have the Title. That Proves he knew I didn't have the Title yet.
I do have Copies of his “Bill of Sale from his State” to show anybody. That Proves he sent them to me.
I am Very Easy to get along with and Never Reacted the way he said I did when he got to my shop...
We even helped him load up all the parts and the Camaro...He had no Police Friends with him...
He also talked about my Shop...We Build 6 Camaros at a Time...There is four of us working at the shop he was at...The Paint & Body Shop is at another location...The Paint Shop has to be Seperate because of dust from the body work...
You can also see how Nice and Clean and Organized my Shop is on the TV Show since he said my Shop was Dirty, and Un-Organized also.
I have Pictures of my Camaros at the Body Shop with the other Employees if anybody needs to see that also. He also says...” my Camaros were no where close, to being 1st class, frame off rotisserie, nut/bolt restorations, with all new components, as he claimed. Body prep and paint quality was extremely poor quality, parts/components, being used, were used”.....
Judges First look at Paint and Body at a Car Show...Then Everything else
I have included Two Interviews “Hot Rod TV Show" and "Super Chevy TV Show" did with me. Look at me Camaros on both and you can be the Judge of my Restoration Work....It is as easy as that...Plus I can show you the First Place Trophies from the Car Shows...And the Magazines they were in....
My Name, Camaros and Documents are in John Hoopers 1969 Camaro Reference Book...and Jerry MacNeish Z28/ SS 396 Fact Book....Plus 98 Percent of the People that Fly in to my Shop...Buy One of my Camaros because of the Quality of my Restoration Work...Plus I have a lot of Repeat Customers...:)
“Hot Rod TV” did a 30 minute Interview with me and a Black & Gold 1969 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show and some of my Rare ZL-1 Camaro Documents and ZL-1 Blue Prints I have.
Go 13 Minutes into it for the Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Yvs36hZ_w
“Super Chevy TV Show” did a Interview with me and a Orange and Black 1970 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show and some of my Rare ZL-1 Camaro Documents and ZL-1 Blue Prints I have.
Go 18 Minute's into it for the Interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9g9sxlRKfY&feature=player_embedded
The Add also Said “Builder 396 Motor” that's it...Nothing about the Heads
In my Restoration Contract it Said I would Find the Correct 396-375 hp with Correct Heads and that would be Included in my Restoration Cost...
After phone calls (were not returned) and e-mails (were not answered), I contacted e-bay's customer service and their legal team. I gave them the Ad listing for the Camaro and supplied them with information, where-by, the sale was conducted off e-bay.
e-bay, immediately removed bear123jetski Ads and would not allow him, to run any Ads for 5+ weeks (when I finally received the Title). Prior to contacting e-bay, I had an attorney, contact him, that threatened legal action. His reply was, you will have to come to Longmont, Colo, to fight this, it will be very expensive.
Complaints were filed with, BBB in Denver and the Colorado Attorney General's Office.
If Wetherall, as he states, is so well thought of, why have there been other complaints filed against him, on scam.org and ripoff.com??
Regarding the engine, he has NEVER, made restitution, to the cracked head and damaged crankshaft, after agreeing to.
Per his reply, stating how well the Camaro condition was.
After getting the car back to Louisiana, stripping off a few components that remained on the Camaro, he and previous owner left on (steering column, booster/master cylinder, No: doors, front fenders, header, valence, cowl, were on the car, interior had been gutted), an in-depth examination was performed. The bare body, was mounted on a rotisserie and media blasted (inside & outside). Both rear 1/4 panels, revealed they had been partially replaced just below the side marker light, being "incorrectly tack welded on", with excessive amount of bondo inside & outside (hiding seams where put together), heavily coated with primer, being sprayed on outside and inside). The trunk pan was full of small holes (size of 0.7mm, pencil lead, not seen due to primer & paint (used to hid holes), a large gash (2"WX7"L) cut in the floor board under the driver seat, plus more minor issues, that added up.
There were many components, that were not included, that were supposed to be.
As the saying goes, "buyer be ware", when dealing with people of this type!!!
Spencer Wetherall Restorations Reviews
Spencer wetherall, longmont, colorado 80501, list classic camaros and parts on e-bay, as bear123jetski, he also goes by, spencer wetherall, wetherall restorations, time machine camaros.
I bid on a 1969 chevrolet ss 396 camaro, spencer wetherall E-bay seller: bear123jetski), listed on e-bay, 16/june/2015
His ad:
1) guaranteed clear colorado title
2) stated - camaro did not have the original motor, but, had a date correct motor For this 1969 camaro), that was re-buildable.
I was bidding on the car, when the price reached $15,000.00, the reserve went off. I remained high bidder, at $15,500.00.
After a couple hours No one bid above me). Spencer wetherall contacted me, saying, he would sell me the car, for $20,000, but, the transaction would have to be offline from e-bay and my bank would need to send his bank, a wire transfer. I ask if the camaro had a hood He did not have one listed), he said he had one, he would let go with the car, being i was paying full price. I had my bank Capital one, shreveport, louisiana) send mr. Wetherall's bank, a wire transfer for $20k, 16/june/2015.
The next day June 17), mr. Wetherall contacted me, demanding, i allow him to restore the camaro, i needed to send him $50,000.00, right then. Something did not seem right. I refused his offer.
I told him i would arrive, with a trailer, to pick up the car, june 28. He tells me, i could not pick up the camaro, no earlier than, july 16, as he had other commitments and no one would be in his shop, in longmont, colorado.
June 26 I was enroute to colorado), i called mr. Wetherall, advising him, i would arrive his shop, longmont, colorado, june 28, to pick up the camaro. He had several excuses, for me not being able to pick up the car, on june 28.
June 28, i and a friend arrived his shop Longmont, colo), loaded the car. I requested the title, he said he did not have, would send within 10-14 days. I inspected the 396 engine block, it was dated 1967, not date correct for the 1969 camaro. The heads Peanut model) dated 1966, were not correct size, they were not date correct to the engine block, or the 1969 camaro. I told mr. Wetherall, his e-bay ad stated, the engine was date correct, for the camaro. He said take it or leave it. I ask him for the hood, he told me, he did not have a hood. Long story short, he told me, i misunderstood him and this was my problem, not his. Being i was 1200 miles from home and him having the title, i decided, i would leave with the car and remain professional.
My observation of mr. Wetherall's shop -- very small, junky, dirty, un-organized. There was only (1) other person in the shop Did not seem to be a mechanic), there when i arrived. Neither of them, was anywhere close to being professional. Mr. Wetherall told me on the phone several times, he had 8 professional people working on cars.
There were (5) camaros Belonging to customers), supposedly under restoration, were no where close, to being 1st class, frame off rotisserie, nut/bolt restorations, with all new components, as he claimed. Body prep and paint quality was extremely poor quality, parts/components, being used, were used and/or, re-built and were being passed off as new.
After being home a few days, i had the engine disassembled. (1) rod journal on the crankshaft, was totally damaged, not repairable. (1) head was cracked, not repairable. I called mr. Wetherall, i told him, he outright lied In his ad on e-bay), as the engine was not fully re-buildable, due to the spun rod journal and cracked head plus, the engine was not date correct. He told me that was my problem, not his. I also requested the title, he hung up the phone.
As of this report, 15/oct/2015, it has been 122 days June 16, i paid for the car), mr. Wetherall, has not supplied the title, nor, has he reimbursed me for the defective engine components.
Mr. Wetherall, will not return phone calls, nor, answer e-mails, promptly and professionally. Whenever i am able to get him on the phone From another number he does not recognize on his caller id), he always has another excuse, for not sending the title.
Mr. Wetherall, conducts business through the following names: spencer wetherall, bear123jetski E-bay seller name), wetherall restorations, time machine camaros.
Two Sides to a Story
Always Two Sides to a Story.
If you would like to at anytime go look at this Incredible Body of this “Rare Camaro”
His House address is:
Dean W Baker
5222 South Lakeshore Drive
Shreveport Louisiana 71109
Funny how on ebay...I am 100 Percent on my “Car Sales for over 13 Years” and this guy says this...
My Add on ebay for this Camaro had 24 Pictures and a Ton of Information...
I can Show anyone the e-bay Add...Plus I had the Camaro on my TV Show and talked all about the Camaro on the Show and showed all the Parts that were with the Camaro...
I sent Dean Baker the TV Show also before he bought this Camaro so there could be No Confusion.
I have a lot of Repeat Customers. A Happy Customer will Buy from you again....That's a Fact.
My ebay add said that “I Don't have the Title Yet”, But I would “Guarantee a Title”.
The Title was misplaced by the guy I got the Camaro from. He sold it to me with a Bill of Sale.
He had Owned the Camaro 20 Years and had moved 3 times and misplaced the title.
I waited for him to try and find the title. I then turned the paper work in to get the Title in my name.
As soon as the Title was in my name, I then sent the Title on this Camaro to Dean Baker.
Dean Baker “Does Have the Title” and I made a Copy of the Title in case it got lost when I sent it.
I can show anyone the Copy of the Title. I can show anyone the “ebay add” and the TV Show on this Camaro to Prove that Dean Baker is “Wrong”....
Also on the TV Show you can see the High-End Restoration work on the Camaros I am building in the back ground and how “Clean and Organized my Shop is.
Call my Cell and I will “Immediately” send you Pictures on my Phone to Your Phone or to your Email address of the Camaros in the Shop. You will see the Craftsmanship and Quality of my Builds and see how Clean and Organized my Shop is...
Again it is that Easy to Prove what I am Saying is True...And that he is “Wrong”...
I can also show you all the Trophies in my Shop that the Restored Camaros have Won.
He also said he met my Reserve on E-bay and then I called him. How could I get his Phone Number to call him??? ebay “Doesn’t” send someones “Phone Number” once they Hit the Reserve Price....
He Called me and said “What will it take to Buy this Camaro now and Stop the Auction” I said $20k
I then emailed him the TV Show I that was Filmed a week earlier on this Camaro. The TV Show also showed when I picked up the Camaro from the Owner's House and did an Interview with the owner on this Rare Camaro.....Dean Baker then said... Okay send me your Wire Information and then he wired me the $20,000.00 on the Camaro.
I then Stopped the Auction
He called me the next day and said he didn’t know anyone who could do the Rotisserie Restoration work on this Camaro.....He saw from my TV Show that I do “ Frame Off Rotisserie Restorations ” and asked me to do a Contract for him to Restore this Camaro...
I told him since he bought the Camaro from me...I would give him a Better Deal to do a “ Frame off Rotisserie Restoration “and I would find a Correct Dated 1969 396/375 hp 4 Bolt Main Motor for the Build.
The Contracted stated $50,000.00 to do the Frame Off Restoration work and $20,000 down to start the work....I still have the Contract I sent him to Prove this all happened...It was 20K to Start Not 50k like he said...And how could I Force anyone into a Contract like he Says???
Call around for Pricing...That is Cheap to do a High-End Frame Off Rotisserie Restoration...
If anyone is reading this Now... Call any Shop.... they will Quote you a lot Higher Price to do the same work I was going to do. I gave him a Deal on the Restoration because he bought the Camaro from me.
After he Agreed to the Contract he said he would Wire me $20,000.00 and I would Start the Build. I waited and did not get a Wire to start the work. He then called me a day latter and said I will be there tomorrow to pick up the Camaro and that my “Friends would have Guns on them” and not to worry because they are off duty Police Officers....I thought that was a “odd thing to say”???
I asked him why he didn’t want me to do the work? Dean Baker said a New Shop was opening up were he lived and they would do the work a lot Cheaper.....$30,000.......Now I thank God we never did the Restoration work for him...
He asked to pick up the Camaro the next day because his Police Officer friends had the weekend off.
I told him the parts were in storage and we were not working on the weekend.
I did tell him the Shop would be Closed for the week of July 4th for the Holidays
This Camaro was taken down to a Bare Shell...”Just like the e-bay add said and all the Pictures showed the Camaro all apart.
It Was a Builder Car...It was a Incredible Body 1969 SS 396-375hp with a Rare Factory BE Coded 410 Posi Rear-end.
We then had to Box Everything up for him to take with him which took sometime to get it all ready.
We were Filming for the TV Show Monday & Tuesday and I told him he could get the Camaro on Wednesday if he was all of a sudden in such a big hurry to get this Camaro picked up.
Dean Baker also said in this Report.....”I advising him, i would arrive his shop, longmont, colorado, june 28, to pick up the camaro. He had several excuses, for me not being able to pick up the car, on june 28.
June 28, i and a friend arrived his shop Longmont, colo)”,
If this was True....How did I have everything Boxed up and Ready for him to pick up on June 28th???
He also states...I didn't give him the Title at the Shop....He knew about the Delay with the Title because he sent me the “Bill of Sale from his State” for this Camaro.
He said he wanted the Bill of Sale in-case he got pulled over on the way home since he wouldn't have the Title. That Proves he knew I didn't have the title yet.
I do have Copies of his “Bill of Sale from his State” to show anybody that he had it the day he picked up the Camaro
I am Very Easy to get along with and Never Reacted the way he said I did when he got to my shop...
We even helped him load up all all the parts and the Camaro...He had no Police Friends with him...
He also talked about my Shop...We Build 6 Camaros at a time...There is four of us working at the shop he was at...The Paint & Body Shop is at another location...The Body Shop has to be Separate because of dust...
You can also see how Nice and Clean and Organized my Shop is on the TV Show since he said my Shop was Dirty, and UN-Organized also.
I have Pictures of my Camaros at the Body Shop with the other Employees if anybody needs to see that also. Dean Baker also says...” my Camaros were no where close, to being 1st class, frame off rotisserie, nut/bolt restorations, with all new components, as he claimed. Body prep and paint quality was extremely poor quality, parts/components, being used, were used”.....
Judges First look at Paint and Body at a Car Show...Then Everything else...I have a Wall of Trophies of the Quality of my Restoration Workmanship
I have included Two Interviews “Hot Rod TV”and Super Chevy TV did with me.
Look at my Camaros on Both TV Shows and you can be the Judge of my Restoration Work.
It is as easy as that...Plus I can show you the First Place Trophies from the Car Shows...And all the Magazines they were in....
My Name, Camaros and Documents are in in John Hoopers 1969 Camaro Reference Book...and Jerry MacNeish Z28/ SS396 Fact Book....Plus 98 Percent of the People that Fly in to my Shop...”Buy” One of my Camaros because of the Quality of my Restoration Work...That's why I love to here when a New Customer says he is going to Fly In...Then I know it's a “Done Deal”... Plus I have a lot of Repeat Customers...Because they Love my Camaros...:)
“Hot Rod TV” did a 30 minute Interview with me and a Black & Gold 1969 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show.... Go 13 Minutes into it for the Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Yvs36hZ_w
“Super Chevy TV Show” did a Interview with me and a Orange and Black 1970 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show. Go 18 Minute's into it for the Interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9g9sxlRKfY&feature=player_embedded
The Add also Said “Builder 396 Motor” ...Nothing about the Heads
In my Restoration Contract it Said I would Find the Correct 396-375 hp with Correct Heads and that would be Included in my Restoration Cost...
Again I have all the Proof to back up my Story...ebay add...TV Show...Title on the Camaro...and the Contract to Build the Camaro...
Anyone who deals with Dean Baker should wear a Police Body Camera so you can get the Story Straight so the same thing won't happen to you....
Every Neighborhood always has the one Neighbor that can't get along with anybody and I guess I sold a Camaro to that Neighbor...Lol
I also have an Appraisal that a Customer got done when he took delivery of one of my Camaro Builds.
The Value came back at $134,500 by a Very Respected Auto Appraiser that has been in the Business for a Long Time...
Always Two Sides to a Story.
Always Two Sides to a Story.
Funny how on E-bay...I am 100 Percent on my Car Sales over 13 Years...
My Add on E-bay for this Camaro had 24 Pictures and a Ton of Information in the Add...I can Show anyone the Add...Plus I had the Camaro on my TV Show and talked all about the Camaro on the Show and showed all the Parts that were with the Camaro...
I sent him the TV Show also before he bought the Camaro so there could be no Confession.
I have a lot of Repeat Customers. A Happy Customer will Buy from you again.
My E-bay add said that I Don't have the Title Yet, But I would Guaranty a Title.
The Title was miss placed by the guy I got the Camaro from so he sold it to me with a Bill of Sale
He had Owned the Camaro 20 Years and had moved 3 times in the 20 years.
I waited for him to try and find it and then turned the paper work in to get the Title in my name.
As soon as the Title was in my Name I sent him the Title on this Camaro. He Does Have the Title.
I can show anyone the Copy of the Title, I can show anyone the E-bay add and the TV Show on this Camaro to Prove he is Wrong and you can see the High-end Restoration work on the Camaros in the back ground...I can also show you all the Trophies in my shop that the Restored Camaros have Won.
He also said he met my Reserve on E-bay and then I called him. How could I get his Phone Number to call him??? E-bay “Does Not” send someones “Phone Number” once they Hit the Reserve Price....
He Called me and said “What will it take to Buy this Camaro Now and Stop the Auction” I said $20k
He then wired me the $20,000.00 on the Camaro.
He called me the next day and said he didn’t know anyone who could do the Restoration on the Camaro.....He saw from my TV Show that I do Full Frame Off Restorations and asked me to do a Contract for him to Restore this Camaro...
I told him since he bought the Camaro From me...I would give him a Better Deal to do a Total Frame off Restoration and find a Correct 1969 Dated 396-375 hp 4 Bolt Main Motor.
The Contracted stated $50,000.00 to do the Restoration work...I still have the Contract I sent him.
How could I Force anyone into a Contract like he Says???
If anyone is reading this Now... Call any Shop.... they will Quote you a lot Higher Price to do the same work I was going to do. So I gave him a Deal on the Restoration Because he bought the Camaro...
After he Agreed to the Contract he said he would Wire me the Money...I waited and did not get a wire to start the work. He then called me a day latter and said I will be there tomorrow to pick up the Camaro and that my friends would have guns on them and not to worry because they are off duty Police Officers....I thought that was Weird of him to say???
I asked him why he didn’t want me to do the work? He said a New Shop was opening up were he lived and they would do the work a lot Cheaper.....Now I thank God we never did the Restoration for him...
He asked to pick up the Camaro the next day because his Police Officer friends had the weekend off.
I told him the parts were in storage and we were not working on the weekend.
I did tell him the Shop would be Closed for the week of July 4th for the Holidays
This Camaro was taken down to a Bare Shell...”Just like the E-bay add said and all the Pictures showed the Camaro all apart. It Was a Builder Car...It was a Incredible Body 1969 SS 396-375hp Factory 410 Posi
We then had to Box Everything up for him to take with him. Which took some time for us to Box up.
We were Filming for the TV Show Monday & Tuesday and I told him he could get the Camaro on Wednesday...
He also said in this Report.....”I advising him, i would arrive his shop, longmont, colorado, june 28, to pick up the camaro. He had several excuses, for me not being able to pick up the car, on june 28.
June 28, i and a friend arrived his shop Longmont, colo)”,
If this was True....How did I have everything Boxed and Ready for him to pick up on June 28th???
He also states...I didn't give him the Title at the Shop....He knew about the Delay with the Title because he sent me the “Bill of Sale" from his State” for this Camaro. He wanted me to fill them out and sign them before he got to my Shop.
He said he wanted the Bill of Sale in-case he got pulled over on the way home since he wouldn't have the Title. That Proves he knew I didn't have the Title yet.
I do have Copies of his “Bill of Sale from his State” to show anybody. That Proves he sent them to me.
I am Very Easy to get along with and Never Reacted the way he said I did when he got to my shop...
We even helped him load up all the parts and the Camaro...He had no Police Friends with him...
He also talked about my Shop...We Build 6 Camaros at a Time...There is four of us working at the shop he was at...The Paint & Body Shop is at another location...The Paint Shop has to be Seperate because of dust from the body work...
You can also see how Nice and Clean and Organized my Shop is on the TV Show since he said my Shop was Dirty, and Un-Organized also.
I have Pictures of my Camaros at the Body Shop with the other Employees if anybody needs to see that also. He also says...” my Camaros were no where close, to being 1st class, frame off rotisserie, nut/bolt restorations, with all new components, as he claimed. Body prep and paint quality was extremely poor quality, parts/components, being used, were used”.....
Judges First look at Paint and Body at a Car Show...Then Everything else
I have included Two Interviews “Hot Rod TV Show" and "Super Chevy TV Show" did with me. Look at me Camaros on both and you can be the Judge of my Restoration Work....It is as easy as that...Plus I can show you the First Place Trophies from the Car Shows...And the Magazines they were in....
My Name, Camaros and Documents are in John Hoopers 1969 Camaro Reference Book...and Jerry MacNeish Z28/ SS 396 Fact Book....Plus 98 Percent of the People that Fly in to my Shop...Buy One of my Camaros because of the Quality of my Restoration Work...Plus I have a lot of Repeat Customers...:)
“Hot Rod TV” did a 30 minute Interview with me and a Black & Gold 1969 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show and some of my Rare ZL-1 Camaro Documents and ZL-1 Blue Prints I have.
Go 13 Minutes into it for the Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Yvs36hZ_w
“Super Chevy TV Show” did a Interview with me and a Orange and Black 1970 ZL-1 Camaro for their TV Show and some of my Rare ZL-1 Camaro Documents and ZL-1 Blue Prints I have.
Go 18 Minute's into it for the Interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9g9sxlRKfY&feature=player_embedded
The Add also Said “Builder 396 Motor” that's it...Nothing about the Heads
In my Restoration Contract it Said I would Find the Correct 396-375 hp with Correct Heads and that would be Included in my Restoration Cost...
Reply to Wetherall
I received Title to the Camaro, after 6 months.
After phone calls (were not returned) and e-mails (were not answered), I contacted e-bay's customer service and their legal team. I gave them the Ad listing for the Camaro and supplied them with information, where-by, the sale was conducted off e-bay.
e-bay, immediately removed bear123jetski Ads and would not allow him, to run any Ads for 5+ weeks (when I finally received the Title). Prior to contacting e-bay, I had an attorney, contact him, that threatened legal action. His reply was, you will have to come to Longmont, Colo, to fight this, it will be very expensive.
Complaints were filed with, BBB in Denver and the Colorado Attorney General's Office.
If Wetherall, as he states, is so well thought of, why have there been other complaints filed against him, on scam.org and ripoff.com??
Regarding the engine, he has NEVER, made restitution, to the cracked head and damaged crankshaft, after agreeing to.
Per his reply, stating how well the Camaro condition was.
After getting the car back to Louisiana, stripping off a few components that remained on the Camaro, he and previous owner left on (steering column, booster/master cylinder, No: doors, front fenders, header, valence, cowl, were on the car, interior had been gutted), an in-depth examination was performed. The bare body, was mounted on a rotisserie and media blasted (inside & outside). Both rear 1/4 panels, revealed they had been partially replaced just below the side marker light, being "incorrectly tack welded on", with excessive amount of bondo inside & outside (hiding seams where put together), heavily coated with primer, being sprayed on outside and inside). The trunk pan was full of small holes (size of 0.7mm, pencil lead, not seen due to primer & paint (used to hid holes), a large gash (2"WX7"L) cut in the floor board under the driver seat, plus more minor issues, that added up.
There were many components, that were not included, that were supposed to be.
As the saying goes, "buyer be ware", when dealing with people of this type!!!