I went to the 10 August 2014 Gold 2 day Coast event. Beware! Do not allow yourself to be taken in by this manipulator.
He plays with emotions and abuses NLP techniques to pursuade. Check out some of his you tubes = that's how emotional people get & also listen to the claps & whoops that his 'disciples' used to break into your head. He uses whatever he can to manipulate you via a well worked out process = firstly purchase a set of 'limited edition' & 'personally signed' set of books (that he says is an investment -- RLOL!). Said he only had 57 left - haha - it's too funny to explain what happens the next day when he's still selling these books - but there were plenty more! He makes people who signed feel special as his special 'VIPs' - BUT only so he can sign them on to his so-called entrepreneur mentoring program at either $5500 (up front) or $6500 (via payment plan). There is NO documented information about what they're signing up for = NONE!
As people raced up to purchase his books, I watched him, he eyes lit up just for a moment before he could compose himself again; that look that flashed in his eyes was excitement at how he was catching his prey.
His entire events are about signing people up to his so called program - I suspect he gets these people to sign up to a lot more at the so called 'CEO events' (I suspect used to be referred to as 'bootcamps'). I suggest to those who signup at the first event STOP right now - DO NOT give this deceitful man any more of your hard earned money.
He constantly says that he does not do personal development, he creates entrepreneurs - I wish I had a dollar for every time he repeated that over the 2 days - I'd be the millionaire (a term he also constantly) that he says he is - it's one of the many terms that he constantly uses to persuade.
He also uses the F_ck work constantly - I suspect its used to makes people feel like 'Let's get real here'. My goodness! I was also then hearing that word from the most lovely people who probably normally wouldn't say that as often outside that particular environment. :(
I figure that the $5000 per hour that he says he gets paid from 'high flying CEO's' is what he has calculated that he earns during these events when so many people sign up to all his 'programs'. There is no evidence, no testimonials - all you have to do is check his website = only 5 testimonials from his 'disciples' who probably have made it good (& that's great for them) but really there are no high-flying CEOs there like he makes out he consults to. To those PEOPLE who signed up to his program I believe that it's ACTUALLY YOU that he is talking about.
Although you might get some information that you could use but that's just all part of his game - for example, dream big, which is great. I highly recommend that you just take that kind of motivation to inspire yourself & go get non-manipulative mentor/s. At least, promise yourself that you will not sign up for anything until you've taken yourself away from the hype for a week. There is NO RUSH!
There is so very much more I can say but one last item: he uses a guilt trip at the end of the day to sign up to his program when you are tired. I didn't attend the last 2 hours on 1st day (5-7pm'ish) but I asked a couple who did. Apparently he uses some guilt trip about if a relative needed some life-saving surgery would you find $30k to pay for it = people say 'YES!', then he says then 'why wouldn't you spend $1500' (ie; initial deposit of the $6500 mentoring program) to educate yourself for your business so you can make $millions. My goodness!
What a true manipulator this man is. PLEASE PEOPLE BEWARE do not allow yourself to be hoodwinked.
I went to his recent London show , ( 21/3 /15) new nothing about the guy before hand , except watched a few youtube adverts of just him chatting , and he came across as intelligent and i thought perhaps help full to people with some of what he had to say , HaHa , What i found my self in was a room full of people , tightly packed together , so as to have no personal space whatsoever , and try to sell them on how special they are ! , wtf ? haha, anyway sorry, found ourselves ringed in by his foot-soldiers, dressed uniformly head to toe in black , with the power of colours also being used against his "prey" too, " thanks for your post , " ( I wish i had done a search on his name before hand ) final analysis , This dude is a money sucking,, mind manipulator , working crowd energy with his aforementioned army of worker bees, cult i smell, anyway any one that reads this , i hope before attending his , lambs to the slaughter show, stay the ###k away from this dangerous person , because unfortunately his kind prey on good meaning ordinary people
Wilson Luna is all talk and little action. He sold me a dream and I fell for it. I spent a lot of my savings on him because I believed in him and believed he would be able to turn my life around but I was wrong. Everything that he actually said was ambiguous. He played games, sucked me in with the hype, made me feel like all advice I had ever had was wrong, made me feel that I could achieve anything and do anything I wanted. Anyone who was my friend was worried about me. People warned me that he seemed to be fake, they said there was really no proof that he could help me and no one could find a background on him. In the end the thing that kept me going was the energy and excitement that kept me interested. In a group of people all psyched up, all energised, all full of hope he just kept talking about the dream that could become reality. Really there was no structure, no path, no course and every weekend with him was the same old thing said over and over again. If you spend a lot of money on a course to expect to get value for money. You expect something to happen that will really change your life. You want to get every penny out of the man because you spend a fortune. You feel there is no turning back. You think he's going to help you at some point. You think he cares about you. In the end. It's rubbish. He promises you a dream but with him that dream falls short of any concrete advice. He's just all talk and little action.
Sadly, we paid this company a total of £4,500 before realising what was really going on. As you point out, we could've done an accredited course with this money, or invested it into our business. Wilson was very clever at his 'Free' event and made sure he spoke directly to each and every one of us. How? By making eye contact and making you feel very special. By spouting off universal truths and getting his groupies to clap fuck in agreement. By emotionally priming you for success and failure. Success if you sign up. Failure if you don't.
As newcomers to this type of manipulation, and inexperienced in business, we fell for it. Wilson overpromised and underdelivered. He hardly gave our business much attention and instead focused on growing his own. Within a few months we had made some lovely friends, and were slowly becoming more and more entrenched in promoting Wilson. We started to sound like his groupies who were rapidly falling into some kind of trance, idealising him. When we took a step back to assess what was going on, we were horrified to find ourselves wrapped up in a fantasy: 'Mr and Mrs Luna's fantasy' of their own self-importance.
It's easily done, when you profess, to the general public, to be a multi millionaire mentor to the World's top CEO's. We all had a hunch to look deeper into his claims but pushed the niggling doubt away. People need someone to look up to. We are little sheeple needing direction, and when a leader turns up, most of us follow. The question is? Where was this man leading us? Other than marketing afiansos for Wilson Luna Ltd, most of us were heading down the proverbial garden path, straight into our very own hypermanic delusions of grandeur and magnimonious distortions of our own potential.
What Wilson gives with one hand, he takes away with the other. He needs power over people. As soon as he sees you becomng powerful, he knocks you back down again, and it's this seasaw that keeps people attached to group and hanging on his every word.
Absolute power definitely corrupts absolutely. Wilson was definitely not a millionaire when he started this journey, but he is now. Even his oversized brown pinstriped suits have changed. He's finally beginning to walk the talk. It's taken him three years to get here; a fraud lawyer to protect him; a marketing guru to promote him; a PR expert to promote him; and lots of spiritual new agers to follow him.
What we still can't figure out is, are these two Lunatics really that smart to conjure up a strategy to manipulate people? Or has their greed and love of power simply gotten the better of them?
PLEASE, PLEASE do not waste your money on this crap. I went to one of his seminars, waited for a day and a half for the big news/big action, information that he promised that will change your life...... and I am still waiting. I walked out after one and half days. I know just one of the script writers he uses and how they manipulate. There are so many holes in Wilson Luna story and if you do some research you can catch him out. Advisor to top 10 CEO (like all of his claims) are bulldust. He also stiches together his previous advertorial spots from tv shop type shows and re-cuts them to pretend that he is being legitimately interviewed...
BTW, I have won awards from major Banks for my business plan writing, written public offer documents, won awards for innovation and intellectual property writings. I have numerous professional letters after my name. I have studied selling from the masters and studied and excelled in Management, entreprenuership etc.
You can find great selling/motivation/business management/growth courses on the net. Many local Govt business offices also offer good courses. These are far above anything Wilson Scam Luna can offer, and much, much cheaper.
I know how Wilson works, his methodologies, please stay away from him. There is so much more I can write about Wilson and his tactics. Please stay away from him.
Liars, a fake lawyer & company house records says it all!
I couldn't give a no star or a minus star so I had to settle with one star but you should know that it was less than one star! So my friend and I went to the two days event over the weekend in London (27-28th sept). He was indeed late and the doors took forever to open, I was so hot amongst the sea of people I thought I was going to faint. I looked up and I can see a guy taking pictures of the crowd. When the doors opened he began talking and yet he took what seemed like ten years to get to the point. We all worn wrist bands, greens means first timers, blue meant they almost got you and yellow means your a bitch because they got you! He kept saying stuff like buy my life changing book for £100 it's not available in shops blah blah blah. He make you feel like you were a second class citizen if you never bought the book, whoever bought the book was VIP they were serious about being successful and if you didn't you wasn't serious about being successful. 'You think I fucking like selling books, they're heavy and shit I fucking hate it, I only sell it to help you' he kept saying whilst putting every effort into selling the book. VIP went in earlier and though out the day via a different door, they could ask questions and had a hour with him on the 2nd day. I stayed after lunch on the first day to see what else would happen. The VIP people began asking questions, you know the ones who bought the £100 book. Semi-successful people asked him questions and he trashed their business. One woman owned a coconut oil brand and was about to enter Harrods, wilson told her why would she have a brand, because a brand is about ego. He told her that going to Harrods was a stupid idea and her business wouldn't last long basically. Then another woman got angry with it and said she disagree because she's got into Harrods with her own seasonal card brand and she went from £6,000 turnover to £25,000 he again told her she wouldn't last long. He told a guy whose business turned over half a million in 12 months that he's business model is stupid and he's business won't last long... It was basically hours of bullshit and making people feel like their business is stupid and selling a stupid course for £5,500. He said 'if your love one was dying and needed £50,000 to have a life saving operation would you do everything to get the money or would you let them die, so why wouldn't you spend £5,500 to save your life'. He says his course is the cure for cancer for business... Like the shit that he says are seriously fucked up! My friend decided it would be worth it and bought the book. She told me to look through it and so I took it home with me. The reason why this book is not available in stores is because it's plagiarised it's basically the book think and grow rich by Neapolitan Hill and the Secret copied and put into one book and not 28 years of his business experience he's full of shit! I checked his company records and found that his company has less than £17,000 let me ask you something how can he transform your business to a multi-million pound business if he can even do the same to his business! When I confronted the lawyer I found he was a fake, he knows nothing about law nothing, he claims to be a solicitor but doesn't know what the LPC (Legal practice course) is? It's a cult not a business! Wilson is a lunatic he and he's slaves are fucking crazy, they're the kind of people you see on TV but hope and pray aren't real! He is a very good liar and he & his little liar, sorry I meant fake lawyer friend too. He was exposed in oz as a fake so he's here to try a thing! He is so amazing that he videos have less than 500 views and no one really raves about him but him and his team.., I dare him to name a company that pays him £5000 per hour more like 5000 swear words in an hour. He is a fake, and a snake... Religions talk about satan, wilson luna is Satan, he is an evil, soul-less wanker ripping off innocent people who's only aim is to work hard and succeed. If he really did start in a caravan I hope to god that in a few years he ends up in the streets begging for coins for food! I don't know what happened on the second day as I did not attend nor did my friend, I tend to be allergic to evil and bullshit so I thought prevention was better than cure!
I went with an open mind to the free 2 days in London (why would this guy charge when he's up there selling for 2days?) and as I expected it was a total scam. How people can actually be sucked in by this total shyster is beyond me, it is worrying how naive people are and quite frankly totally stupid!! I have seen many a scam in my time, most start with 'i used to live in a caravan' like this Wilson guys did which is classic! Don't get me wrong this liar and cheat has got some talent on Facebook advertising to be able to get 400 people in a room at 9am on a weekend! Thank god I left on the first day at lunchtime but it really was entertaining when 'Wilson LunaTIC' ( I'm also skeptical wilson luna is not a real name) he said he gets £5k an hour advising top ceos and £500k for 4 days and he's booked for the next 2 years!!! Not once did he ever mention the names of any of these companies. He showed a video of so called people who he has helped again not text with names or company names, alarm bells ringing yet???Hahahaha who would believe that?! Why would he be here trying to sell a non existent programme over 12 months for £5k if the above was true?! The swearing was unbearable honestly I'm not a prude but the guy I was sat next to counted the words f**k and s**t 115 times in just over 2 hours!!!! (That's how bored he was) No class, no professionalism whatsoever, his 'gang' stood around audience like armed guards! It's like a sick religion!!! So weird. Another review i found said they had researched this idiot and found his companies dissolved and basically he hasn't got a pot to piss in. It's all lies you stupid people he is NEVER going to make you successful!!!!!!! Wake up and don't max out your last £5k on a credit card for this liar and scam!!!! What goes around comes around, hopefully someone will break his legs one day!
Approach with caution. Do your research to test his and others intergalactic claims about their multimillion dollar ventures, best selling books, global impact and supernova enterprises. Once you’re in, you’re in (his words not mine) it’s hard to get out.
The net is full of small start up companies making huge claims. Sadly, it's all bullshit!
I went to his "free seminar" in London. We were kept waiting for 20 minutes, then we went into the room where a bunch of his disciples were dancing to create a bit of a vibe. A clown who described himself as his GM in London went on stage to shout some "good morning" then Wilson made a theatrical appearance. From them 3 hours of him using swear words and talking, talking, talking, just to say absolutely nothing valuable apart from pithing the sales of his books occurred. It was clear to me that there was no point in coming after lunch. He is a charlatan. He manipulates people using NLP. Stay away !
Today (27/09/2014) I came to 2-days free weekend program and have decided not to come back after the lunch break. I had rather bad experience. The event started with 20 minutes delay without any apologies ... and according to Mr Luna - he values his time... as well as I do. Mr Luna said few times that he is not a speaker but - hold on - it seem this is one of the things he does for leaving (mentoring others) so it would make sense to perfect the skill...at least to me. I heard lots of swearing which is unacceptable! He mentioned that other areas of his life are messed up but not the financial/business one...really? is this something which should be mentioned...even in the joke?! I am listening to other mentors online for free and gaining much more so decided to utilize my precious time doing something else and had a nice day! I will not be coming back tomorrow.
Completely agree with the above comment. I am a phd qualified consultant psychologist and saw through the immense dishonesty and cultish behaviour immediately.
Please, please, please for your own good stay well away. I left at lunchtime first day too.
August 2012, we went with two other people to Wilson Luna’s millionaire boot camp, open minded hoping for some form of motivation that clears your head to move in forward on a business venture that was doing just fine before , instead what we found was loud manipulative preaching, in the form of a cult. You talk about the beauty of repetitive hypnosis, this is a method that he uses, and for those poor souls who become sucked in, all I can say is he will rip you off, tear your friends and families apart, all at a cost $$$$$. 95 percenters is what he has the people that he has sucked in call those that have the brains not to become involved.
We left three quarters through the first day , thank god. But before that he tried to attack me as a member of his newbie sheep followers because I would not conform , instead I threw back at him the so called Luna’s 10 commandments . Well, I had that parasite stumped for words. In fact he spent a few seconds to compose himself before he began preaching the same repetitive garbage all over again.
Who says as a motivational speaker that if someone is in your road to where you want to go, then kick them to the ground, take what you need and keep going. Who says that ( Wilson Luna does) , if you like that idea that another has , then take it and use it for your own ( steal it ).Who teachers that .
Not once did Luna speak of any names of those that he has made millionaires . He teachers stealing, walking over people and manipulation, whilst all supported by his sheep that surround the outside of the room monitoring all the new people , just like a cult. The so called preaching was all four letter words, ” fuck this ,fuck that and fuck them”.
Arm bands are given out at the start of day 1. Why is that , well it’s is so the staff surrounding the outside including himself and the already brainwashed fools can determine who are the first timers in comparison to the 2nd, 3rd or completely sucked in oldies. From then your targeted.
Who says, if your on a plane with your wife or partner and it was having engine problems and could crash, that you should look at your partner and say ” your not good enough and I’m saving myself” , ( Wilson Luna )
I could go on and on, but my closing part is, through this and the very arrogant and naive people we went with not only signed up , but have continually handed over thousands of dollars to this Wilson Luna ( lunatic ).
What happened then is what we thought were friends turned out to be deceitful liars who have stolen thousands from the business we had. Hence we no longer have anything else to do with them.
I am so blessed that I have integrity and a full brain that allows me/us to see the wolves amongst the sheep.
The whole thing reeked of cultish manipulation. I’m sick to think that as I type this – people are still sitting there, listening to that charlatan and his team with their cries of “yes YES!”, “f##k yes” and double hi-fiving.
Business strategist and I've never heard of Wilson Luna
Hi,
I completely agree with you. I just attended the Sydney Event on the weekend and was horrified by the complete manipulation of the audience and in fact what I believe to be lies.
The session lacked any real business content, just a few basic motivational activities. I am actually a Business Strategy consultant, working for one of the big 4. We advise large blue chips on their strategy and I have never heard of Wilson before. In fact all strategy for large companies is done internally or by specific business strategy firms. It usually takes us 6 - 12 weeks to develop a strategy for a large firm. I doubt he charges $5000 an hour as you could get a partner from one of the top strategy firms for this price for a whole day... and I am also not sure what benefit you would get from him in an hour... it takes a while to accurately understand a business problems.
I asked him a few business related more challenging questions during the day... he had no idea and just told me I needed to sign-up for the course.
He also provided an example of professional services offshoring to India, which showed he had no idea.
He is a con artist and taking advantage of desperate people, who maybe don't have the business knowledge to critique his "ideas" realistically.
Like you, I feel there is a need to let people know before they loose $6,500.. you could do a decent course at Tafe or a University for that much
Am I hearing you correctly? Wilson Luna USP is getting your ego out of the way? All millionaires and billionaires have no ego, therefore. What a load of fairy tales.
Clearly, for you to buy into this assumption and then pass it on, you have no knowledge of human nature.
This is a false claim and, FYI, will NOT make you a million bucks. The secret to business is not really a secret. It's actually very simple, and whoever complicates it is bullshitting you.
The key to business is selling. Be this other peoples products in a candy store or your own designs.
If there's no demand, or you have no cash flow, or your sales strategies are poor, you won't sell. I've run a clothes store for years, and firstly, location was important. We need passing trade. Secondly, know your client. There's no point selling high end fashion in a low waged area. Or low end in an affluent area. Logic prevails!
Also, you don't need passing trade if your running a farm or textile factory. Logic again.
Focusing your seminars on ego is a red herring that can only possibly appeal to vulnerable folk.
Lunas seminars are very poor self development. His network is good, he's attracted quite a few sweethearts who want to save the world. But don't expect business training. This type of shit will just confuse you.
I have never heard so much shite come out of the mouth of one person. What the hell is all this fuck yes clapping about? Did he say something useful that I missed?
If you've got sucked in by this idiot you are either buzzing or sexually frustrated? I would be embarrassed to call this monkey my mentor.
He brings nothing new to the table and the old news that he rehashes, he destroys by trying to make it sound like rocket science. Pfffffftttttt!!!!
Am I hearing you correctly? Wilson Luna USP is getting your ego out of the way? All millionaires and billionaires have no ego, therefore. What a load of fairy tales.
Clearly, for you to buy into this assumption and then pass it on, you have no knowledge of human nature.
This is a false claim and, FYI, will NOT make you a million bucks. The secret to business is not really a secret. It's actually very simple, and whoever complicates it is bullshitting you.
The key to business is selling. Be this other peoples products in a candy store or your own designs.
If there's no demand, or you have no cash flow, or your sales strategies are poor, you won't sell. I've run a clothes store for years, and firstly, location was important. We need passing trade. Secondly, know your client. There's no point selling high end fashion in a low waged area. Or low end in an affluent area. Logic prevails!
Also, you don't need passing trade if your running a farm or textile factory. Logic again.
Focusing your seminars on ego is a red herring that can only possibly appeal to vulnerable folk.
Lunas seminars are very poor self development. His network is good, he's attracted quite a few sweethearts who want to save the world. But don't expect business training. This type of shit will just confuse you.
Thanks for illuminating us with your counter claims. But don't you think you have missed the point here?
We have a business strategist working for one of the big 4's making it clear this man is BULLSHITTING and you still have the audacity to lead people up the garden path.
It makes no difference whether YOU personally benefitted from his two day seminar. The man is a liar!
Unless you can prove that his marketing campaign is real, don't add insult to injury.
Just got back from a free day seminar with the self appointed demigod of entrepreneurship Wilson Luna. When I left after lunch I was seriously concerned for those vulnerable ppl left in the room repeating 'yes' at every prompt. The morning starts with Wilson spouting quasi self empowered spiritual jargon aimed to destabilise you like 'you are your only investment', ''you are the only thing that changes your tomorrow', 'what you dont value you will never accomplish'. Which sets him up to say 'I can help you get out of your own way'. Well Wilson I say bullshit to you like you say 'fuck' to emphasise inconsequential and irrelevant annecdotes, bullshit you can help, bullshit is what you speak, and bullshit is what you sell. Those poor vulnerable ppl brought books and another day of your NLP mind voodoo, with wrist bands strategically identifying them. Then during the breaks your minions move around the crowd converting for sales or prepping the victim for more NLP brainwashing. The afternoon session was even more intense with NLP, moving left to right, repeating questions like 'does this make sense to you' for which my answer was no, and what was actually your point in the last 2 mins of babble. Sadly most of the room replied like zombies 'Yes'. Be warned, beware and avoid this guy like the plague unless you have rhe time or inclination to sit and watch NLP marketing mind voodoo manipylation in operation. So finally Wilson I say 'FUCK NO'.
i went to his free bootcamp and then signed up for his program for 12 months. I saw him repeatedly put people down, tear down businesses that were doing well, encourage them to set up new businesses which would serve his needs (eg events management or AV company)... and then... amazingly tell you he will use your services for 'free' while you build up 'experience'. He's also ripped off a ton of content from Cliton Swaine, Brendon Burchard, Will Smith and many more... passing off their stories and content as if it were his own. There is nothing in his training that is original and that you can't buy off the shelf. Save your 5K or whatever he now charges, save your time (which you can't get back), and save your self-esteem.
So far I've read a lot if h ow great individuals are at predicting a con. Supported by a PhD. If your a skint business professional underachieving then maybe luna is not for you as the program finds entrepreneurs not employees.
I joined in 2014 on my knees and a business graduate a couple of times over.
In 2 years I have taken something I know about and shaped it reshaped it and reshaped it more than 10 times. If you don't know your client, your product and your value proposition nothing is going to happen.
I believe I got it correct last November using every piece of the ten commandments took it to my first client last week (Jan 2015), we are now drawing up the contract for approx $1m in the next 12 months (with a hp of 35%).
This was the smallest client I could approach there are hundreds if not thousands globally.
Please don't despise something you don't get, I presume the PhD commenter is a multi millionaire and maybe as someone who specialise in behavioural science they would be better served offering a more comprehensive way to be successful?
I have spent in excess of $50000 dollars in tertiary education and got very little for it. My investment in me attending wilson luna mentoring has cost me a small fraction of it and this year alone will produce a 40+ return on investment.
II feel it prudent to regurgitate the quote the 99% of people who give up too early end up working for the 1% that don't quit.
For what it's worth anyone can turn up to the 2 day seminar as many times as they wish for free and there's enough in that to get you started.
I'll have to disagree with the thrust of the above reviews. I went along on 27/28 Sept in London just to check it out - I'm not easily impressed, sucked into sales pitches or put off by language. I was undecided after Day 1, but very impressed by Wilsons method/success in explaining/conveying the main obstacle to any personal success - the EGO. From what I saw, the course (despite the expense) would provide very good value indeed for highly motivated individuals - who are exactly the people Wilson claims to be looking for. This two day seminar was free ... and has enough content to be of value to most people who get it. I imagine those who don't are not the ones Wilson is pitching at.
Wilson Luna(tic) is your typical meglomaniac complete with narcassic characteristics and God complex. He is a wolf in business mentor clothing.You may as well burn your money than sign up with this fraud.
A classic example of a snake oil salesman who will tell bare faced lies to get what he wants - your money. His whole life is a fantasy designed to create credibility and trust.
This lunatic is addicted to the sound of his own voice and thinks he's infallible. Morally bankrupt on every level. Do your research before you are tempted to part with your money. You will find nothing to recommend this egomaniac.
Run a mile! Lies are his strategy, fear is his game and your money is his goal.
This guy has can speak but it's a case of all style and no substance. His arrogance gives people the false impression that he knows what he is taking about - he doesn't.
Allegedly this joker started in Australia and they soon tired of him. Now he's pushing his lies in the UK to no avail. Yes most of us actually have a radar for bullshit when we hear it!! I think he may need to move continents and eventually planets.
All I saw at the event I attended was a room full of desperate broke people who were being brainwashed to part with whatever little money they had. Dispicable and very sad.
This fraud claims to be spiritual but spend anytime around him or his disciples and you realise it's a cult and the only God he believes is cold hard cash. Be super warned!
This fake in a suit has to change his name to try and escape the fact that there are a lot of unhappy ex-members who had been parted from their money with nothing to show for it. It's Wilson Robert Luna now .. Don't even think Wilson Luna was his real name .. Who does he think he's kidding. Shame on you Mr. Luna(tic).
He is a total fraud. He was an Axa insurance salesman and now he lies about being a CEO advisor. Don't trust him. He uses NLP techniques to manipulate people into joining his 'Luna Family'. Albeit it they are beautiful people, unfortunately they are lost souls looking for a home. Stay well away from him.
Am I hearing you correctly? Wilson Luna USP is getting your ego out of the way? All millionaires and billionaires have no ego, therefore. What a load of fairy tales.
Clearly, for you to buy into this assumption and then pass it on, you have no knowledge of human nature.
This is a false claim and, FYI, will NOT make you a million bucks. The secret to business is not really a secret. It's actually very simple, and whoever complicates it is bullshitting you.
The key to business is selling. Be this other peoples products in a candy store or your own designs.
If there's no demand, or you have no cash flow, or your sales strategies are poor, you won't sell. I've run a clothes store for years, and firstly, location was important. We need passing trade. Secondly, know your client. There's no point selling high end fashion in a low waged area. Or low end in an affluent area. Logic prevails!
Also, you don't need passing trade if your running a farm or textile factory. Logic again.
Focusing your seminars on ego is a red herring that can only possibly appeal to vulnerable folk.
Lunas seminars are very poor self development. His network is good, he's attracted quite a few sweethearts who want to save the world. But don't expect business training. This type of shit will just confuse you.
Thanks for illuminating us with your counter claims. But don't you think you have missed the point here?
We have a business strategist working for one of the big 4's making it clear this man is BULLSHITTING and you still have the audacity to lead people up the garden path.
It makes no difference whether YOU personally benefitted from his two day seminar. The man is a liar!
Unless you can prove that his marketing campaign is real, don't add insult to injury.
Thanks for illuminating us with your counter claims. But don't you think you have missed the point here?
We have a business strategist working for one of the big 4's making it clear this man is BULLSHITTING and you still have the audacity to lead people up the garden path.
It makes no difference whether YOU personally benefitted from his two day seminar. The man is a liar!
Unless you can prove that his marketing campaign is real, don't add insult to injury.
A rebuttal that doesn't prove Wilson Luna is the real deal
Well, well, well... A rebuttal in favour Wilson Luna. Have you been sent here by his team or are you compelled by the depths of your heart to invite others to join you?
Having read over 50 complaints about this speaking/self development business, I'm convinced that this company stated off on deceit and is continuing on deceit. Not one counter claim has proven he ever owned two multimillion dollar companies or that he ever advised Asia Pacs CEOs.
Su pleased, don't come hear to fool even mote innocent people. Enough is enough. Have a heart.
My guess is that you are a Luna groupie and are making millions through joining his group? Right?
Please prove that Wilson is a authentic. That he was a multi millionaire, before starting his speaking business. Prove it via companies house and Asia Pacs CEO's that he mentors for £5000 per hour; and then, only then, come here to defend this man and his business.
Wilson lunaTic) is your typical meglomaniac complete with narcassic characteristics and god complex. He is a wolf in business and spiritual mentor clothing.You may as well burn your money than sign up with this fraud.
A classic example of a snake oil salesman who will tell bare faced lies to get what he wants - your money. His whole life is a fantasy designed to create credibility and trust.
This lunatic is addicted to the sound of his own voice and thinks he's infallible. Morally bankrupt on every level. Do your research before you are tempted to part with your money. You will find nothing to recommend this egomaniac.
Run a mile! lies are his strategy, fear is his game and your money is his goal.
This guy has can speak but it's a case of all style and no substance. His arrogance gives people the false impression that he knows what he is taking about - he doesn't.
Allegedly this joker started in australia and they soon tired of him. Now he's pushing his lies in the uk to no avail. Yes most of us actually have a radar for bullshit when we hear it!! i think he may need to move continents and eventually planets.
All i saw at the event i attended was a room full of desperate broke people who were being brainwashed to part with whatever little money they had. Dispicable and very sad. I spoke to several members and they told me that they had not made any money from his advice but they were in a 'happy' place. One member told me that she hopes that he chooses her as the special one. I gathered that this meant that he preys on female members who idolise him.
This fraud claims to be spiritual but spend anytime around him or his disciples and you realise it's a cult and the only god he believes is cold hard cash. Be super warned!
This fake in a suit has to change his name to try and escape the fact that there are a lot of unhappy ex-members who had been parted from their money with nothing to show for it. It's wilson robert luna now .. Don't even think wilson luna was his real name .. Who does he think he's kidding. Shame on you mr. LunaTic).
I joined the program for 12 months and I got real benefits from some of the finer points that Wilson talks about, particularly about dealing with clients and what they want. I didnt re-join after the first year as I thought i had gotten everything from the program that i could. I can understand that a lot of people may not benefit, and others will, just depends on the individual
Wilson Luna Reviews
I went to the 10 August 2014 Gold 2 day Coast event. Beware! Do not allow yourself to be taken in by this manipulator.
He plays with emotions and abuses NLP techniques to pursuade. Check out some of his you tubes = that's how emotional people get & also listen to the claps & whoops that his 'disciples' used to break into your head. He uses whatever he can to manipulate you via a well worked out process = firstly purchase a set of 'limited edition' & 'personally signed' set of books (that he says is an investment -- RLOL!). Said he only had 57 left - haha - it's too funny to explain what happens the next day when he's still selling these books - but there were plenty more! He makes people who signed feel special as his special 'VIPs' - BUT only so he can sign them on to his so-called entrepreneur mentoring program at either $5500 (up front) or $6500 (via payment plan). There is NO documented information about what they're signing up for = NONE!
As people raced up to purchase his books, I watched him, he eyes lit up just for a moment before he could compose himself again; that look that flashed in his eyes was excitement at how he was catching his prey.
His entire events are about signing people up to his so called program - I suspect he gets these people to sign up to a lot more at the so called 'CEO events' (I suspect used to be referred to as 'bootcamps'). I suggest to those who signup at the first event STOP right now - DO NOT give this deceitful man any more of your hard earned money.
He constantly says that he does not do personal development, he creates entrepreneurs - I wish I had a dollar for every time he repeated that over the 2 days - I'd be the millionaire (a term he also constantly) that he says he is - it's one of the many terms that he constantly uses to persuade.
He also uses the F_ck work constantly - I suspect its used to makes people feel like 'Let's get real here'. My goodness! I was also then hearing that word from the most lovely people who probably normally wouldn't say that as often outside that particular environment. :(
I figure that the $5000 per hour that he says he gets paid from 'high flying CEO's' is what he has calculated that he earns during these events when so many people sign up to all his 'programs'. There is no evidence, no testimonials - all you have to do is check his website = only 5 testimonials from his 'disciples' who probably have made it good (& that's great for them) but really there are no high-flying CEOs there like he makes out he consults to. To those PEOPLE who signed up to his program I believe that it's ACTUALLY YOU that he is talking about.
Although you might get some information that you could use but that's just all part of his game - for example, dream big, which is great. I highly recommend that you just take that kind of motivation to inspire yourself & go get non-manipulative mentor/s. At least, promise yourself that you will not sign up for anything until you've taken yourself away from the hype for a week. There is NO RUSH!
There is so very much more I can say but one last item: he uses a guilt trip at the end of the day to sign up to his program when you are tired. I didn't attend the last 2 hours on 1st day (5-7pm'ish) but I asked a couple who did. Apparently he uses some guilt trip about if a relative needed some life-saving surgery would you find $30k to pay for it = people say 'YES!', then he says then 'why wouldn't you spend $1500' (ie; initial deposit of the $6500 mentoring program) to educate yourself for your business so you can make $millions. My goodness!
What a true manipulator this man is. PLEASE PEOPLE BEWARE do not allow yourself to be hoodwinked.
Too Right ! !
I went to his recent London show , ( 21/3 /15) new nothing about the guy before hand , except watched a few youtube adverts of just him chatting , and he came across as intelligent and i thought perhaps help full to people with some of what he had to say , HaHa , What i found my self in was a room full of people , tightly packed together , so as to have no personal space whatsoever , and try to sell them on how special they are ! , wtf ? haha, anyway sorry, found ourselves ringed in by his foot-soldiers, dressed uniformly head to toe in black , with the power of colours also being used against his "prey" too, " thanks for your post , " ( I wish i had done a search on his name before hand ) final analysis , This dude is a money sucking,, mind manipulator , working crowd energy with his aforementioned army of worker bees, cult i smell, anyway any one that reads this , i hope before attending his , lambs to the slaughter show, stay the ###k away from this dangerous person , because unfortunately his kind prey on good meaning ordinary people
With Wilson and dream stays a dream!
Wilson Luna is all talk and little action. He sold me a dream and I fell for it. I spent a lot of my savings on him because I believed in him and believed he would be able to turn my life around but I was wrong. Everything that he actually said was ambiguous. He played games, sucked me in with the hype, made me feel like all advice I had ever had was wrong, made me feel that I could achieve anything and do anything I wanted. Anyone who was my friend was worried about me. People warned me that he seemed to be fake, they said there was really no proof that he could help me and no one could find a background on him. In the end the thing that kept me going was the energy and excitement that kept me interested. In a group of people all psyched up, all energised, all full of hope he just kept talking about the dream that could become reality. Really there was no structure, no path, no course and every weekend with him was the same old thing said over and over again. If you spend a lot of money on a course to expect to get value for money. You expect something to happen that will really change your life. You want to get every penny out of the man because you spend a fortune. You feel there is no turning back. You think he's going to help you at some point. You think he cares about you. In the end. It's rubbish. He promises you a dream but with him that dream falls short of any concrete advice. He's just all talk and little action.
Wilson Luna Ltd Warning
Sadly, we paid this company a total of £4,500 before realising what was really going on. As you point out, we could've done an accredited course with this money, or invested it into our business. Wilson was very clever at his 'Free' event and made sure he spoke directly to each and every one of us. How? By making eye contact and making you feel very special. By spouting off universal truths and getting his groupies to clap fuck in agreement. By emotionally priming you for success and failure. Success if you sign up. Failure if you don't.
As newcomers to this type of manipulation, and inexperienced in business, we fell for it. Wilson overpromised and underdelivered. He hardly gave our business much attention and instead focused on growing his own. Within a few months we had made some lovely friends, and were slowly becoming more and more entrenched in promoting Wilson. We started to sound like his groupies who were rapidly falling into some kind of trance, idealising him. When we took a step back to assess what was going on, we were horrified to find ourselves wrapped up in a fantasy: 'Mr and Mrs Luna's fantasy' of their own self-importance.
It's easily done, when you profess, to the general public, to be a multi millionaire mentor to the World's top CEO's. We all had a hunch to look deeper into his claims but pushed the niggling doubt away. People need someone to look up to. We are little sheeple needing direction, and when a leader turns up, most of us follow. The question is? Where was this man leading us? Other than marketing afiansos for Wilson Luna Ltd, most of us were heading down the proverbial garden path, straight into our very own hypermanic delusions of grandeur and magnimonious distortions of our own potential.
What Wilson gives with one hand, he takes away with the other. He needs power over people. As soon as he sees you becomng powerful, he knocks you back down again, and it's this seasaw that keeps people attached to group and hanging on his every word.
Absolute power definitely corrupts absolutely. Wilson was definitely not a millionaire when he started this journey, but he is now. Even his oversized brown pinstriped suits have changed. He's finally beginning to walk the talk. It's taken him three years to get here; a fraud lawyer to protect him; a marketing guru to promote him; a PR expert to promote him; and lots of spiritual new agers to follow him.
What we still can't figure out is, are these two Lunatics really that smart to conjure up a strategy to manipulate people? Or has their greed and love of power simply gotten the better of them?
The bottom line is, it doesn't matter. KEEP AWAY!
Wilson Luna RIP OFF SCAM
PLEASE, PLEASE do not waste your money on this crap. I went to one of his seminars, waited for a day and a half for the big news/big action, information that he promised that will change your life...... and I am still waiting. I walked out after one and half days. I know just one of the script writers he uses and how they manipulate. There are so many holes in Wilson Luna story and if you do some research you can catch him out. Advisor to top 10 CEO (like all of his claims) are bulldust. He also stiches together his previous advertorial spots from tv shop type shows and re-cuts them to pretend that he is being legitimately interviewed...
BTW, I have won awards from major Banks for my business plan writing, written public offer documents, won awards for innovation and intellectual property writings. I have numerous professional letters after my name. I have studied selling from the masters and studied and excelled in Management, entreprenuership etc.
You can find great selling/motivation/business management/growth courses on the net. Many local Govt business offices also offer good courses. These are far above anything Wilson Scam Luna can offer, and much, much cheaper.
I know how Wilson works, his methodologies, please stay away from him. There is so much more I can write about Wilson and his tactics. Please stay away from him.
Liars, a fake lawyer & company house records says it all!
I couldn't give a no star or a minus star so I had to settle with one star but you should know that it was less than one star! So my friend and I went to the two days event over the weekend in London (27-28th sept). He was indeed late and the doors took forever to open, I was so hot amongst the sea of people I thought I was going to faint. I looked up and I can see a guy taking pictures of the crowd. When the doors opened he began talking and yet he took what seemed like ten years to get to the point. We all worn wrist bands, greens means first timers, blue meant they almost got you and yellow means your a bitch because they got you! He kept saying stuff like buy my life changing book for £100 it's not available in shops blah blah blah. He make you feel like you were a second class citizen if you never bought the book, whoever bought the book was VIP they were serious about being successful and if you didn't you wasn't serious about being successful. 'You think I fucking like selling books, they're heavy and shit I fucking hate it, I only sell it to help you' he kept saying whilst putting every effort into selling the book. VIP went in earlier and though out the day via a different door, they could ask questions and had a hour with him on the 2nd day. I stayed after lunch on the first day to see what else would happen. The VIP people began asking questions, you know the ones who bought the £100 book. Semi-successful people asked him questions and he trashed their business. One woman owned a coconut oil brand and was about to enter Harrods, wilson told her why would she have a brand, because a brand is about ego. He told her that going to Harrods was a stupid idea and her business wouldn't last long basically. Then another woman got angry with it and said she disagree because she's got into Harrods with her own seasonal card brand and she went from £6,000 turnover to £25,000 he again told her she wouldn't last long. He told a guy whose business turned over half a million in 12 months that he's business model is stupid and he's business won't last long... It was basically hours of bullshit and making people feel like their business is stupid and selling a stupid course for £5,500. He said 'if your love one was dying and needed £50,000 to have a life saving operation would you do everything to get the money or would you let them die, so why wouldn't you spend £5,500 to save your life'. He says his course is the cure for cancer for business... Like the shit that he says are seriously fucked up! My friend decided it would be worth it and bought the book. She told me to look through it and so I took it home with me. The reason why this book is not available in stores is because it's plagiarised it's basically the book think and grow rich by Neapolitan Hill and the Secret copied and put into one book and not 28 years of his business experience he's full of shit! I checked his company records and found that his company has less than £17,000 let me ask you something how can he transform your business to a multi-million pound business if he can even do the same to his business! When I confronted the lawyer I found he was a fake, he knows nothing about law nothing, he claims to be a solicitor but doesn't know what the LPC (Legal practice course) is? It's a cult not a business! Wilson is a lunatic he and he's slaves are fucking crazy, they're the kind of people you see on TV but hope and pray aren't real! He is a very good liar and he & his little liar, sorry I meant fake lawyer friend too. He was exposed in oz as a fake so he's here to try a thing! He is so amazing that he videos have less than 500 views and no one really raves about him but him and his team.., I dare him to name a company that pays him £5000 per hour more like 5000 swear words in an hour. He is a fake, and a snake... Religions talk about satan, wilson luna is Satan, he is an evil, soul-less wanker ripping off innocent people who's only aim is to work hard and succeed. If he really did start in a caravan I hope to god that in a few years he ends up in the streets begging for coins for food! I don't know what happened on the second day as I did not attend nor did my friend, I tend to be allergic to evil and bullshit so I thought prevention was better than cure!
Total Liar Should be locked up!
I went with an open mind to the free 2 days in London (why would this guy charge when he's up there selling for 2days?) and as I expected it was a total scam. How people can actually be sucked in by this total shyster is beyond me, it is worrying how naive people are and quite frankly totally stupid!! I have seen many a scam in my time, most start with 'i used to live in a caravan' like this Wilson guys did which is classic! Don't get me wrong this liar and cheat has got some talent on Facebook advertising to be able to get 400 people in a room at 9am on a weekend! Thank god I left on the first day at lunchtime but it really was entertaining when 'Wilson LunaTIC' ( I'm also skeptical wilson luna is not a real name) he said he gets £5k an hour advising top ceos and £500k for 4 days and he's booked for the next 2 years!!! Not once did he ever mention the names of any of these companies. He showed a video of so called people who he has helped again not text with names or company names, alarm bells ringing yet???Hahahaha who would believe that?! Why would he be here trying to sell a non existent programme over 12 months for £5k if the above was true?! The swearing was unbearable honestly I'm not a prude but the guy I was sat next to counted the words f**k and s**t 115 times in just over 2 hours!!!! (That's how bored he was) No class, no professionalism whatsoever, his 'gang' stood around audience like armed guards! It's like a sick religion!!! So weird. Another review i found said they had researched this idiot and found his companies dissolved and basically he hasn't got a pot to piss in. It's all lies you stupid people he is NEVER going to make you successful!!!!!!! Wake up and don't max out your last £5k on a credit card for this liar and scam!!!! What goes around comes around, hopefully someone will break his legs one day!
Wilson Luna Scam
Approach with caution. Do your research to test his and others intergalactic claims about their multimillion dollar ventures, best selling books, global impact and supernova enterprises. Once you’re in, you’re in (his words not mine) it’s hard to get out.
The net is full of small start up companies making huge claims. Sadly, it's all bullshit!
He is a CHARLATAN !
I went to his "free seminar" in London. We were kept waiting for 20 minutes, then we went into the room where a bunch of his disciples were dancing to create a bit of a vibe. A clown who described himself as his GM in London went on stage to shout some "good morning" then Wilson made a theatrical appearance. From them 3 hours of him using swear words and talking, talking, talking, just to say absolutely nothing valuable apart from pithing the sales of his books occurred. It was clear to me that there was no point in coming after lunch. He is a charlatan. He manipulates people using NLP. Stay away !
1st day impression
Today (27/09/2014) I came to 2-days free weekend program and have decided not to come back after the lunch break. I had rather bad experience. The event started with 20 minutes delay without any apologies ... and according to Mr Luna - he values his time... as well as I do. Mr Luna said few times that he is not a speaker but - hold on - it seem this is one of the things he does for leaving (mentoring others) so it would make sense to perfect the skill...at least to me. I heard lots of swearing which is unacceptable! He mentioned that other areas of his life are messed up but not the financial/business one...really? is this something which should be mentioned...even in the joke?! I am listening to other mentors online for free and gaining much more so decided to utilize my precious time doing something else and had a nice day! I will not be coming back tomorrow.
Terrible
Completely agree with the above comment. I am a phd qualified consultant psychologist and saw through the immense dishonesty and cultish behaviour immediately.
Please, please, please for your own good stay well away. I left at lunchtime first day too.
August 2012, we went with two other people to Wilson Luna’s millionaire boot camp, open minded hoping for some form of motivation that clears your head to move in forward on a business venture that was doing just fine before , instead what we found was loud manipulative preaching, in the form of a cult. You talk about the beauty of repetitive hypnosis, this is a method that he uses, and for those poor souls who become sucked in, all I can say is he will rip you off, tear your friends and families apart, all at a cost $$$$$. 95 percenters is what he has the people that he has sucked in call those that have the brains not to become involved.
We left three quarters through the first day , thank god. But before that he tried to attack me as a member of his newbie sheep followers because I would not conform , instead I threw back at him the so called Luna’s 10 commandments . Well, I had that parasite stumped for words. In fact he spent a few seconds to compose himself before he began preaching the same repetitive garbage all over again.
Who says as a motivational speaker that if someone is in your road to where you want to go, then kick them to the ground, take what you need and keep going. Who says that ( Wilson Luna does) , if you like that idea that another has , then take it and use it for your own ( steal it ).Who teachers that .
Not once did Luna speak of any names of those that he has made millionaires . He teachers stealing, walking over people and manipulation, whilst all supported by his sheep that surround the outside of the room monitoring all the new people , just like a cult. The so called preaching was all four letter words, ” fuck this ,fuck that and fuck them”.
Arm bands are given out at the start of day 1. Why is that , well it’s is so the staff surrounding the outside including himself and the already brainwashed fools can determine who are the first timers in comparison to the 2nd, 3rd or completely sucked in oldies. From then your targeted.
Who says, if your on a plane with your wife or partner and it was having engine problems and could crash, that you should look at your partner and say ” your not good enough and I’m saving myself” , ( Wilson Luna )
I could go on and on, but my closing part is, through this and the very arrogant and naive people we went with not only signed up , but have continually handed over thousands of dollars to this Wilson Luna ( lunatic ).
What happened then is what we thought were friends turned out to be deceitful liars who have stolen thousands from the business we had. Hence we no longer have anything else to do with them.
I am so blessed that I have integrity and a full brain that allows me/us to see the wolves amongst the sheep.
The whole thing reeked of cultish manipulation. I’m sick to think that as I type this – people are still sitting there, listening to that charlatan and his team with their cries of “yes YES!”, “f##k yes” and double hi-fiving.
Business strategist and I've never heard of Wilson Luna
Hi,
I completely agree with you. I just attended the Sydney Event on the weekend and was horrified by the complete manipulation of the audience and in fact what I believe to be lies.
The session lacked any real business content, just a few basic motivational activities. I am actually a Business Strategy consultant, working for one of the big 4. We advise large blue chips on their strategy and I have never heard of Wilson before. In fact all strategy for large companies is done internally or by specific business strategy firms. It usually takes us 6 - 12 weeks to develop a strategy for a large firm. I doubt he charges $5000 an hour as you could get a partner from one of the top strategy firms for this price for a whole day... and I am also not sure what benefit you would get from him in an hour... it takes a while to accurately understand a business problems.
I asked him a few business related more challenging questions during the day... he had no idea and just told me I needed to sign-up for the course.
He also provided an example of professional services offshoring to India, which showed he had no idea.
He is a con artist and taking advantage of desperate people, who maybe don't have the business knowledge to critique his "ideas" realistically.
Like you, I feel there is a need to let people know before they loose $6,500.. you could do a decent course at Tafe or a University for that much
Wilson Luna USP
Am I hearing you correctly? Wilson Luna USP is getting your ego out of the way? All millionaires and billionaires have no ego, therefore. What a load of fairy tales.
Clearly, for you to buy into this assumption and then pass it on, you have no knowledge of human nature.
This is a false claim and, FYI, will NOT make you a million bucks. The secret to business is not really a secret. It's actually very simple, and whoever complicates it is bullshitting you.
The key to business is selling. Be this other peoples products in a candy store or your own designs.
If there's no demand, or you have no cash flow, or your sales strategies are poor, you won't sell. I've run a clothes store for years, and firstly, location was important. We need passing trade. Secondly, know your client. There's no point selling high end fashion in a low waged area. Or low end in an affluent area. Logic prevails!
Also, you don't need passing trade if your running a farm or textile factory. Logic again.
Focusing your seminars on ego is a red herring that can only possibly appeal to vulnerable folk.
Lunas seminars are very poor self development. His network is good, he's attracted quite a few sweethearts who want to save the world. But don't expect business training. This type of shit will just confuse you.
Wilson Luna none sense
I have never heard so much shite come out of the mouth of one person. What the hell is all this fuck yes clapping about? Did he say something useful that I missed?
If you've got sucked in by this idiot you are either buzzing or sexually frustrated? I would be embarrassed to call this monkey my mentor.
He brings nothing new to the table and the old news that he rehashes, he destroys by trying to make it sound like rocket science. Pfffffftttttt!!!!
Wilson Luna USP
Am I hearing you correctly? Wilson Luna USP is getting your ego out of the way? All millionaires and billionaires have no ego, therefore. What a load of fairy tales.
Clearly, for you to buy into this assumption and then pass it on, you have no knowledge of human nature.
This is a false claim and, FYI, will NOT make you a million bucks. The secret to business is not really a secret. It's actually very simple, and whoever complicates it is bullshitting you.
The key to business is selling. Be this other peoples products in a candy store or your own designs.
If there's no demand, or you have no cash flow, or your sales strategies are poor, you won't sell. I've run a clothes store for years, and firstly, location was important. We need passing trade. Secondly, know your client. There's no point selling high end fashion in a low waged area. Or low end in an affluent area. Logic prevails!
Also, you don't need passing trade if your running a farm or textile factory. Logic again.
Focusing your seminars on ego is a red herring that can only possibly appeal to vulnerable folk.
Lunas seminars are very poor self development. His network is good, he's attracted quite a few sweethearts who want to save the world. But don't expect business training. This type of shit will just confuse you.
Wilson Luna Ltd
Thanks for illuminating us with your counter claims. But don't you think you have missed the point here?
We have a business strategist working for one of the big 4's making it clear this man is BULLSHITTING and you still have the audacity to lead people up the garden path.
It makes no difference whether YOU personally benefitted from his two day seminar. The man is a liar!
Unless you can prove that his marketing campaign is real, don't add insult to injury.
NLP gone OTT
Just got back from a free day seminar with the self appointed demigod of entrepreneurship Wilson Luna. When I left after lunch I was seriously concerned for those vulnerable ppl left in the room repeating 'yes' at every prompt. The morning starts with Wilson spouting quasi self empowered spiritual jargon aimed to destabilise you like 'you are your only investment', ''you are the only thing that changes your tomorrow', 'what you dont value you will never accomplish'. Which sets him up to say 'I can help you get out of your own way'. Well Wilson I say bullshit to you like you say 'fuck' to emphasise inconsequential and irrelevant annecdotes, bullshit you can help, bullshit is what you speak, and bullshit is what you sell. Those poor vulnerable ppl brought books and another day of your NLP mind voodoo, with wrist bands strategically identifying them. Then during the breaks your minions move around the crowd converting for sales or prepping the victim for more NLP brainwashing. The afternoon session was even more intense with NLP, moving left to right, repeating questions like 'does this make sense to you' for which my answer was no, and what was actually your point in the last 2 mins of babble. Sadly most of the room replied like zombies 'Yes'. Be warned, beware and avoid this guy like the plague unless you have rhe time or inclination to sit and watch NLP marketing mind voodoo manipylation in operation. So finally Wilson I say 'FUCK NO'.
He rips off other peoples content
i went to his free bootcamp and then signed up for his program for 12 months. I saw him repeatedly put people down, tear down businesses that were doing well, encourage them to set up new businesses which would serve his needs (eg events management or AV company)... and then... amazingly tell you he will use your services for 'free' while you build up 'experience'. He's also ripped off a ton of content from Cliton Swaine, Brendon Burchard, Will Smith and many more... passing off their stories and content as if it were his own. There is nothing in his training that is original and that you can't buy off the shelf. Save your 5K or whatever he now charges, save your time (which you can't get back), and save your self-esteem.
If its not for you that's fine.
So far I've read a lot if h ow great individuals are at predicting a con. Supported by a PhD. If your a skint business professional underachieving then maybe luna is not for you as the program finds entrepreneurs not employees.
I joined in 2014 on my knees and a business graduate a couple of times over.
In 2 years I have taken something I know about and shaped it reshaped it and reshaped it more than 10 times. If you don't know your client, your product and your value proposition nothing is going to happen.
I believe I got it correct last November using every piece of the ten commandments took it to my first client last week (Jan 2015), we are now drawing up the contract for approx $1m in the next 12 months (with a hp of 35%).
This was the smallest client I could approach there are hundreds if not thousands globally.
Please don't despise something you don't get, I presume the PhD commenter is a multi millionaire and maybe as someone who specialise in behavioural science they would be better served offering a more comprehensive way to be successful?
I have spent in excess of $50000 dollars in tertiary education and got very little for it. My investment in me attending wilson luna mentoring has cost me a small fraction of it and this year alone will produce a 40+ return on investment.
II feel it prudent to regurgitate the quote the 99% of people who give up too early end up working for the 1% that don't quit.
For what it's worth anyone can turn up to the 2 day seminar as many times as they wish for free and there's enough in that to get you started.
Kind regards
Anthony
Impressive
I'll have to disagree with the thrust of the above reviews. I went along on 27/28 Sept in London just to check it out - I'm not easily impressed, sucked into sales pitches or put off by language. I was undecided after Day 1, but very impressed by Wilsons method/success in explaining/conveying the main obstacle to any personal success - the EGO. From what I saw, the course (despite the expense) would provide very good value indeed for highly motivated individuals - who are exactly the people Wilson claims to be looking for. This two day seminar was free ... and has enough content to be of value to most people who get it. I imagine those who don't are not the ones Wilson is pitching at.
Wilson Robert Luna
Wilson Luna(tic) is your typical meglomaniac complete with narcassic characteristics and God complex. He is a wolf in business mentor clothing.You may as well burn your money than sign up with this fraud.
A classic example of a snake oil salesman who will tell bare faced lies to get what he wants - your money. His whole life is a fantasy designed to create credibility and trust.
This lunatic is addicted to the sound of his own voice and thinks he's infallible. Morally bankrupt on every level. Do your research before you are tempted to part with your money. You will find nothing to recommend this egomaniac.
Run a mile! Lies are his strategy, fear is his game and your money is his goal.
This guy has can speak but it's a case of all style and no substance. His arrogance gives people the false impression that he knows what he is taking about - he doesn't.
Allegedly this joker started in Australia and they soon tired of him. Now he's pushing his lies in the UK to no avail. Yes most of us actually have a radar for bullshit when we hear it!! I think he may need to move continents and eventually planets.
All I saw at the event I attended was a room full of desperate broke people who were being brainwashed to part with whatever little money they had. Dispicable and very sad.
This fraud claims to be spiritual but spend anytime around him or his disciples and you realise it's a cult and the only God he believes is cold hard cash. Be super warned!
This fake in a suit has to change his name to try and escape the fact that there are a lot of unhappy ex-members who had been parted from their money with nothing to show for it. It's Wilson Robert Luna now .. Don't even think Wilson Luna was his real name .. Who does he think he's kidding. Shame on you Mr. Luna(tic).
Fraud
He is a total fraud. He was an Axa insurance salesman and now he lies about being a CEO advisor. Don't trust him. He uses NLP techniques to manipulate people into joining his 'Luna Family'. Albeit it they are beautiful people, unfortunately they are lost souls looking for a home. Stay well away from him.
What a load of ...
Am I hearing you correctly? Wilson Luna USP is getting your ego out of the way? All millionaires and billionaires have no ego, therefore. What a load of fairy tales.
Clearly, for you to buy into this assumption and then pass it on, you have no knowledge of human nature.
This is a false claim and, FYI, will NOT make you a million bucks. The secret to business is not really a secret. It's actually very simple, and whoever complicates it is bullshitting you.
The key to business is selling. Be this other peoples products in a candy store or your own designs.
If there's no demand, or you have no cash flow, or your sales strategies are poor, you won't sell. I've run a clothes store for years, and firstly, location was important. We need passing trade. Secondly, know your client. There's no point selling high end fashion in a low waged area. Or low end in an affluent area. Logic prevails!
Also, you don't need passing trade if your running a farm or textile factory. Logic again.
Focusing your seminars on ego is a red herring that can only possibly appeal to vulnerable folk.
Lunas seminars are very poor self development. His network is good, he's attracted quite a few sweethearts who want to save the world. But don't expect business training. This type of shit will just confuse you.
Wilson Luna Scam Review
Thanks for illuminating us with your counter claims. But don't you think you have missed the point here?
We have a business strategist working for one of the big 4's making it clear this man is BULLSHITTING and you still have the audacity to lead people up the garden path.
It makes no difference whether YOU personally benefitted from his two day seminar. The man is a liar!
Unless you can prove that his marketing campaign is real, don't add insult to injury.
Thanks for illuminating us with your counter claims. But don't you think you have missed the point here?
We have a business strategist working for one of the big 4's making it clear this man is BULLSHITTING and you still have the audacity to lead people up the garden path.
It makes no difference whether YOU personally benefitted from his two day seminar. The man is a liar!
Unless you can prove that his marketing campaign is real, don't add insult to injury.
A rebuttal that doesn't prove Wilson Luna is the real deal
Well, well, well... A rebuttal in favour Wilson Luna. Have you been sent here by his team or are you compelled by the depths of your heart to invite others to join you?
Having read over 50 complaints about this speaking/self development business, I'm convinced that this company stated off on deceit and is continuing on deceit. Not one counter claim has proven he ever owned two multimillion dollar companies or that he ever advised Asia Pacs CEOs.
Su pleased, don't come hear to fool even mote innocent people. Enough is enough. Have a heart.
Wilson Luna scam continues
My guess is that you are a Luna groupie and are making millions through joining his group? Right?
Please prove that Wilson is a authentic. That he was a multi millionaire, before starting his speaking business. Prove it via companies house and Asia Pacs CEO's that he mentors for £5000 per hour; and then, only then, come here to defend this man and his business.
Wilson Robert Luna
Wilson lunaTic) is your typical meglomaniac complete with narcassic characteristics and god complex. He is a wolf in business and spiritual mentor clothing.You may as well burn your money than sign up with this fraud.
A classic example of a snake oil salesman who will tell bare faced lies to get what he wants - your money. His whole life is a fantasy designed to create credibility and trust.
This lunatic is addicted to the sound of his own voice and thinks he's infallible. Morally bankrupt on every level. Do your research before you are tempted to part with your money. You will find nothing to recommend this egomaniac.
Run a mile! lies are his strategy, fear is his game and your money is his goal.
This guy has can speak but it's a case of all style and no substance. His arrogance gives people the false impression that he knows what he is taking about - he doesn't.
Allegedly this joker started in australia and they soon tired of him. Now he's pushing his lies in the uk to no avail. Yes most of us actually have a radar for bullshit when we hear it!! i think he may need to move continents and eventually planets.
All i saw at the event i attended was a room full of desperate broke people who were being brainwashed to part with whatever little money they had. Dispicable and very sad. I spoke to several members and they told me that they had not made any money from his advice but they were in a 'happy' place. One member told me that she hopes that he chooses her as the special one. I gathered that this meant that he preys on female members who idolise him.
This fraud claims to be spiritual but spend anytime around him or his disciples and you realise it's a cult and the only god he believes is cold hard cash. Be super warned!
This fake in a suit has to change his name to try and escape the fact that there are a lot of unhappy ex-members who had been parted from their money with nothing to show for it. It's wilson robert luna now .. Don't even think wilson luna was his real name .. Who does he think he's kidding. Shame on you mr. LunaTic).
Not for everyone, was for me
I joined the program for 12 months and I got real benefits from some of the finer points that Wilson talks about, particularly about dealing with clients and what they want. I didnt re-join after the first year as I thought i had gotten everything from the program that i could. I can understand that a lot of people may not benefit, and others will, just depends on the individual
PK