In December of 2013 I enquired about a vehicle that was listed at the Website powerhousecarsint.com and after two months of negotiation and assurance from the supposed "Business Owner" I can now unfortunately attest to this being the most crooked outfit I have dealt with since buying my first car in 1959...yes...1959.
Here are the quick facts (for those how do not want to read the details).
This is not a dealership
It is not a business
There is no business checking account or other banking relationship
There is no Ohio dealers license
There is no Ohio business license or TAX ID (a full report is in transit to the Ohio Department of Revenue
Mr. Harting made mutiple statements that are totally untrue
Mr. Harting is unresponsive to all requests for discussion, will not take a phone call
Mr. Harting is unresponsive to requested mediation
Damages amount to over $6,000.00
Even his voice mail greeting is not factual: There is no "WE" in Powerhouse Cars International
Do not let his website fool you.
The transaction in question involved a car on Consignment to Mr. Harting and represented by Mr. Harting with a glowing discripton and somewhat shoddy photography on the website that was uncovered in a google search for a particular type of hotrod.
The first indicaiton that this was going to go badly was the mileage on the car. On the website the car was represented as having 2202 miles on the odometer. When it arrived it had 5503.
In that I have been buying, selling and trading cars with other collectors over the years I thought Mr. Harting was a "car guy" and one who could be trusted. On numberous occasions I asked him the following questions:
How current are the photographs?
Are their any scratches, swirl marks or paint chips
How is the undercarriage
What does the car need
How does it run out
Are their any known issues
How are the tires?
Does anything leak
Have you personally inspected the car and will you do so before an agreement is reached?
So my findings:
Not possible to tell how old the photo shoot was but it was 3,000 miles ago and in hot rodding that is years
Not only are their scratches but their are cracks in the fiberglass body gel coat
The under carriage is an oil slick requiring two full days of tedious detailing
The car needs:
Three Stromberg Carburators rebuilt
Was told it was low on brake fluid; it would not stop and the Master was defective and needing replacement.
The progressive shift linkage replaced - the only operational carb is the center carb
Their is no way to apply necessary pressure to the transmission TV Cable
Oil is leaking from both the front and rear main seals
Oil is leaking from the Oil Filter Fittings
The engine compartment was an oil slick
There is no VIN number anywhere on the vehicle
It does not run out. The car does not shift from third into overdrive, the front and rear carbs are dumping gas and cannot be controled and the steering box is loose.
Obviously these issues were known
And the tires: Date code on the rear tires is 2002 and on the front tires 2003. The tires have tread but are hard as rocks. (Would you let your wife ride in a car with 11 and 12 year old tires?
If it has bodily fluid it leaks
I was told he went out to the owners home and check the car out completely...is that possible
I traded a pristine 1940 Ford that was totally perfect and professionally inspected and documented. I gave the owner CASH on delivery for delivery fees, mileage, the broker fee to Powerhouse cars and for the cash difference.
So there you have it and with the power of social media I will do everything in my Power to insure none of my brothers and sisters in the car hobby are riped off. Maybe he needs to change the name to PowerHOSING Cars?
This will set the records straight on this transaction. Howard called my business and wanted to trade his car for a car that my client had for sale. He and the owner of the car here in Dayton ,Ohio made all the arrangements to make this transaction happen. My company and or me had nothing to do with this trade. The owner of the car in Dayton,drove to Howard's home in Florida to deliver his car and pick up the car that he traded for. Howard looked the car over and took it on I test drive. After a lengthily inspection Howard made the trade and was very happy. I did not represent any information on the condition of either car. I operate a car consignment business in Kettering,Ohio. I have a proven track record with many happy clients. Please do not let this person try to malign my business. If Howard didn't like the car when it was delivered to him,he should NOT of made the transaction. Power House cars is a very successful and respected business .Please do not take the comments to be the true. I am available to answer any questions concerning this transaction. I was told that Howard did inspect the car and was happy with the trade, if he was unhappy why did he complete the transaction??? I execute world wide transactions and have very happy clients. I also had to listen to all the problems that Howard's car had such as , leaking engine, bad paint and body work and the list goes on. To my knowledge the car was in very good condition. This is a true case of buyers remorse and he is trying to ruin Power House cars. Once again please call me or e mail me If you would like to discuss this matter in debt. Once again if Howard was that unhappy with the car why did he follow through with the transaction and paid cash to complete !!! Like I said before the car was inspected and driven by Howard. If he didn't like it why didn't he REFUSE IT !!!!
I found a nice Mustang on ebay and contacted the dealer Tom Harting,wee agreed on a price and i wired the money
after a few days i discovered that the VIN on the title did not match the car.The VIN said that it was a coupe with a 6 cyl engine but the car was a fastback with a 302 V8 after a lot of emailing back and fourth Tom said the car had another VIN stamped in under the fenders and that he would get another title.
After another week or so Tom said that the car was not possible to export to another country because it was not possible to get a title with the right VIN and that he would send me my money back.
The weeks went by and Tom promised lots of times that he would send the money tomorrow or the next week and after wating for several weeks i contakted the police in Kettering Ohio and a detective helped me so finally Tom sent most of my money back but he did not send it all.
It was not my foult tha the VIN on the title did not belong to the car and that the car had double identitys,i wanted to buy the car but the paperwork was not in order.All this happend more than 6 mounths ago and Tom doesn`t ansver my messenges and when i call him he hangs up. Tom have stolen $5000 from me and the police says that it is no longer a police matter because most of the money was returned and the remaining amount is so small.
I have lots of emails and reciepts saved as evidense and they prove that Tom has stolen $5000 from me.
I want to worn other people from sending money to Tom Harting he is not to be trusted.
Powerhouse Cars International Reviews
In December of 2013 I enquired about a vehicle that was listed at the Website powerhousecarsint.com and after two months of negotiation and assurance from the supposed "Business Owner" I can now unfortunately attest to this being the most crooked outfit I have dealt with since buying my first car in 1959...yes...1959.
Here are the quick facts (for those how do not want to read the details).
This is not a dealership
It is not a business
There is no business checking account or other banking relationship
There is no Ohio dealers license
There is no Ohio business license or TAX ID (a full report is in transit to the Ohio Department of Revenue
Mr. Harting made mutiple statements that are totally untrue
Mr. Harting is unresponsive to all requests for discussion, will not take a phone call
Mr. Harting is unresponsive to requested mediation
Damages amount to over $6,000.00
Even his voice mail greeting is not factual: There is no "WE" in Powerhouse Cars International
Do not let his website fool you.
The transaction in question involved a car on Consignment to Mr. Harting and represented by Mr. Harting with a glowing discripton and somewhat shoddy photography on the website that was uncovered in a google search for a particular type of hotrod.
The first indicaiton that this was going to go badly was the mileage on the car. On the website the car was represented as having 2202 miles on the odometer. When it arrived it had 5503.
In that I have been buying, selling and trading cars with other collectors over the years I thought Mr. Harting was a "car guy" and one who could be trusted. On numberous occasions I asked him the following questions:
How current are the photographs?
Are their any scratches, swirl marks or paint chips
How is the undercarriage
What does the car need
How does it run out
Are their any known issues
How are the tires?
Does anything leak
Have you personally inspected the car and will you do so before an agreement is reached?
So my findings:
Not possible to tell how old the photo shoot was but it was 3,000 miles ago and in hot rodding that is years
Not only are their scratches but their are cracks in the fiberglass body gel coat
The under carriage is an oil slick requiring two full days of tedious detailing
The car needs:
Three Stromberg Carburators rebuilt
Was told it was low on brake fluid; it would not stop and the Master was defective and needing replacement.
The progressive shift linkage replaced - the only operational carb is the center carb
Their is no way to apply necessary pressure to the transmission TV Cable
Oil is leaking from both the front and rear main seals
Oil is leaking from the Oil Filter Fittings
The engine compartment was an oil slick
There is no VIN number anywhere on the vehicle
It does not run out. The car does not shift from third into overdrive, the front and rear carbs are dumping gas and cannot be controled and the steering box is loose.
Obviously these issues were known
And the tires: Date code on the rear tires is 2002 and on the front tires 2003. The tires have tread but are hard as rocks. (Would you let your wife ride in a car with 11 and 12 year old tires?
If it has bodily fluid it leaks
I was told he went out to the owners home and check the car out completely...is that possible
I traded a pristine 1940 Ford that was totally perfect and professionally inspected and documented. I gave the owner CASH on delivery for delivery fees, mileage, the broker fee to Powerhouse cars and for the cash difference.
So there you have it and with the power of social media I will do everything in my Power to insure none of my brothers and sisters in the car hobby are riped off. Maybe he needs to change the name to PowerHOSING Cars?
Again, beware. This guy is a sham.
Relpy form Power House cars
This will set the records straight on this transaction. Howard called my business and wanted to trade his car for a car that my client had for sale. He and the owner of the car here in Dayton ,Ohio made all the arrangements to make this transaction happen. My company and or me had nothing to do with this trade. The owner of the car in Dayton,drove to Howard's home in Florida to deliver his car and pick up the car that he traded for. Howard looked the car over and took it on I test drive. After a lengthily inspection Howard made the trade and was very happy. I did not represent any information on the condition of either car. I operate a car consignment business in Kettering,Ohio. I have a proven track record with many happy clients. Please do not let this person try to malign my business. If Howard didn't like the car when it was delivered to him,he should NOT of made the transaction. Power House cars is a very successful and respected business .Please do not take the comments to be the true. I am available to answer any questions concerning this transaction. I was told that Howard did inspect the car and was happy with the trade, if he was unhappy why did he complete the transaction??? I execute world wide transactions and have very happy clients. I also had to listen to all the problems that Howard's car had such as , leaking engine, bad paint and body work and the list goes on. To my knowledge the car was in very good condition. This is a true case of buyers remorse and he is trying to ruin Power House cars. Once again please call me or e mail me If you would like to discuss this matter in debt. Once again if Howard was that unhappy with the car why did he follow through with the transaction and paid cash to complete !!! Like I said before the car was inspected and driven by Howard. If he didn't like it why didn't he REFUSE IT !!!!
I found a nice Mustang on ebay and contacted the dealer Tom Harting,wee agreed on a price and i wired the money
after a few days i discovered that the VIN on the title did not match the car.The VIN said that it was a coupe with a 6 cyl engine but the car was a fastback with a 302 V8 after a lot of emailing back and fourth Tom said the car had another VIN stamped in under the fenders and that he would get another title.
After another week or so Tom said that the car was not possible to export to another country because it was not possible to get a title with the right VIN and that he would send me my money back.
The weeks went by and Tom promised lots of times that he would send the money tomorrow or the next week and after wating for several weeks i contakted the police in Kettering Ohio and a detective helped me so finally Tom sent most of my money back but he did not send it all.
It was not my foult tha the VIN on the title did not belong to the car and that the car had double identitys,i wanted to buy the car but the paperwork was not in order.All this happend more than 6 mounths ago and Tom doesn`t ansver my messenges and when i call him he hangs up. Tom have stolen $5000 from me and the police says that it is no longer a police matter because most of the money was returned and the remaining amount is so small.
I have lots of emails and reciepts saved as evidense and they prove that Tom has stolen $5000 from me.
I want to worn other people from sending money to Tom Harting he is not to be trusted.
Sorry about the misspelled words.